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Missing planning permission

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  • slightlychilled
    slightlychilled Posts: 45 Forumite
    edited 17 May 2017 at 9:58PM
    What more information could you need ? I've quoted the covenant word for word. I've given you the owner of the covenant and the original landowner which are one and the same person i.e. the local council - defined as "Local metropolitan council". What else is missing ?
  • EachPenny
    EachPenny Posts: 12,239 Forumite
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    I should know planning and building control better than a solicitor does. :o

    That's easily achieved when you are dealing with the average solicitor :) Get them onto Local Government law, policy & strategy, highways and drainage they are totally lost ;)
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  • EachPenny
    EachPenny Posts: 12,239 Forumite
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    What more information could you need ? I've quoted the covenant word for word. I've given you the owner of the covenant and the original landowner which are one and the same person i.e. the local council - defined as "Local metropolitan council". What else is missing ?

    Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but you are displaying the 'unchilled' attitude again.

    You need legal advice from a solicitor. If you aren't happy with the one you've got you need to get another.

    People are offering you good advice, but instead of thanking them you just snap back with demands. I reckon so far you have had the equivalent of the best part of £3k of free legal advice - which doesn't count for anything if there is something important you haven't told us. And on the evidence so far there is probably a lot more to this story that we don't yet know.

    Please, go and see your solicitor and stop asking questions you cannot get answers to from online strangers.

    We can suggest the things you need to ask, we cannot give you the answer you need.
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
  • davidmcn
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    What more information could you need ? I've quoted the covenant word for word. I've given you the owner of the covenant and the original landowner which are one and the same person i.e. the local council - defined as "Local metropolitan council". What else is missing ?

    Because I haven't seen the rest of the deed, I don't know what else might be missing. The bit you quoted included "Council", and words in deeds with initial capitals are often defined terms, either in the preamble or elsewhere in the deed.
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 17 May 2017 at 10:28PM
    What more information could you need ? I've quoted the covenant word for word. I've given you the owner of the covenant and the original landowner which are one and the same person i.e. the local council - defined as "Local metropolitan council". What else is missing ?

    I think that's enough now. Your solicitor has all the information and the benefit of not trying to provide professional advice from a forum post. You might want to read your own OP again as it provided almost no information at all.

    We've done a pretty good job in eeking out the information that we have, given where we are now.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • davidmcn wrote: »
    Because I haven't seen the rest of the deed, I don't know what else might be missing. The bit you quoted included "Council", and words in deeds with initial capitals are often defined terms, either in the preamble or elsewhere in the deed.

    Council is defined as "CITY OF XXX METROPOLITAN COUNCIL"
  • Doozergirl
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    I wish I'd not gotten involved.
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  • EachPenny wrote: »
    Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but you are displaying the 'unchilled' attitude again.

    You need legal advice from a solicitor. If you aren't happy with the one you've got you need to get another.

    People are offering you good advice, but instead of thanking them you just snap back with demands. I reckon so far you have had the equivalent of the best part of £3k of free legal advice - which doesn't count for anything if there is something important you haven't told us. And on the evidence so far there is probably a lot more to this story that we don't yet know.

    Please, go and see your solicitor and stop asking questions you cannot get answers to from online strangers.

    We can suggest the things you need to ask, we cannot give you the answer you need.

    Some posters have tried to help but not you. You have some agenda known only to yourself so kindly don't reply anymore.
    I appreciate regulars on this forum use phrases and terminology that is obvious to each other, but to someone like me who has no knowledge of these things, it is very confusing.

    I have gleaned so far that I need, 2 indemnity policies, one for council (covenant) consent and one for planning permission.The worst case scenario is that the council demolishes the garage and the indemnity policy reverts the area to garden and reimburses for loss in re-sale value.
    Can it get any worse that that ?
    If that is the worst that can happen, I have no issues with that.
  • EachPenny
    EachPenny Posts: 12,239 Forumite
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    Some posters have tried to help but not you. You have some agenda known only to yourself so kindly don't reply anymore.

    It is a public forum we are all allowed to post where we like. Posting is also for the benefit of other people who might read this thread in future and may be misled by bad or inappropriate advice. The first piece of advice is to give as much information as you can and listen to what people are saying.

    My only 'agenda' is to help people. I know that the best way to help people sometimes is to tell them to seek professional advice rather than taking the advice from strangers with unknown motives and unknown credentials. Even if they are advising with good intentions, none of us know everything.

    You think I have not helped? Perhaps you class me in the same way as your solicitor you are so rude about?

    If you show your solicitor the things I've posted and ask her is this helpful I think I can predict her reply. You say yourself you have no knowledge of this subject, so how on earth can you judge the value of the help I've given? As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter. The people who understand and appreciate good advice when they see it are the ones whose opinion I value. :)

    On than note I'll say goodnight to Doozergirl and Davidmcn and wish you all the very best with your purchase.
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
  • EachPenny
    EachPenny Posts: 12,239 Forumite
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    Because I haven't seen the rest of the deed, I don't know what else might be missing. The bit you quoted included "Council", and words in deeds with initial capitals are often defined terms, either in the preamble or elsewhere in the deed.

    P.s. davidmcn, when I see the word "Council" I start looking more closely, in Local Government it can have a specific meaning. People often assume 'authority' and 'borough' mean the same thing and 'council' is often used as a shorthand for both. The precise term used in a preamble etc may give a clue as to the best strategy to adopt. You seem to have a legal knowledge so I thought that might come in useful for you one day. Apologies if I'm teaching my granny etc. :)
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
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