part owner but not living in the house - council tax advice

boywundazmum

Hoping someone can help....

My name is on the deeds of the house as half owner with my dad - my dad lives in it, im now staying abroad to help a friend start a business, but im still working for my uk based company via internet.

Can my dad claim single persons allowance on council tax while i'm away - do i lose my uk residency if i'm not paying council tax somewhere??
If i choose to stay longer than a few months here in spain but still work for a uk company paying tax and NI.. is there anything else i need to do?
Does not being named on council tax anywhere cause any other problems? Is it even allowed?

Thank you for you help

CIS

Can my dad claim single persons allowance on council tax while i'm away

Possibly - how long are you away for and what's the plan once you've finished helping your friend ?
do i lose my uk residency if i'm not paying council tax somewhere??

No

Does not being named on council tax anywhere cause any other problems? Is it even allowed?

Not directly but it can do later down the line if proof of residence is required etc.

Craig

saajan_12

boywundazmum wrote: »

Hoping someone can help....

My name is on the deeds of the house as half owner with my dad - my dad lives in it, im now staying abroad to help a friend start a business, but im still working for my uk based company via internet.

Can my dad claim single persons allowance on council tax while i'm away - Yes, assuming you have actually moved out / abroad as opposed to being on holiday and assuming you don't necessarily expect to move back in - do i lose my uk residency if i'm not paying council tax somewhere??- not directly, many people don't pay council tax e.g. those living with a partner/parent, lodgers.. What do you need to prove residency for?
If i choose to stay longer than a few months here in spain but still work for a uk company paying tax and NI.. is there anything else i need to do? do for what purpose?
Does not being named on council tax anywhere cause any other problems? Is it even allowed? of course it's allowed, problems with what?

Thank you for you help

You don't have to be paying council tax if you have actually moved out. What residency issues / other problems do you expect?

00ec25

I do not think you understand what you mean when you use the word "resident"

if you were born a UK citizen and have a UK passport then you have a permanent right to come and go from the UK whether you have any interest/"reside" in physical property here or not.

"UK residency" is a term used for the purposes of income tax and determining whether you are liable to pay tax to the UK government on any earnings you make in the UK itself.

Your status would appear to be : UK citizen, currently non resident. That has nothing to do with council tax.

00ec25

saajan_12 wrote: »

You don't have to be paying council tax if you have actually moved out. What residency issues / other problems do you expect?

as CIS cautions, although as their formatting went wrong it is not as obvious as he intended, the father's ability to claim single person discount depends on the answer to the question "how long are you away for and what's the plan once you've finished helping your friend ?"


OP is an owner. It is his UK main residence, and will remain so if he is temporarily absent from it, therefore 2 people remain liable so a single person discount cannot be claimed. Just the same as his father cannot claim a discount when his son goes on holiday. No different if son is abroad "on work", but has not broken the link with his main residence.

removal of the son's liability is what will allow the father to claim SPD

CIS

00ec25 wrote: »

as CIS cautions, although as their formatting went wrong it is not as obvious as he intended, the father's ability to claim single person discount depends on the answer to the question "how long are you away for and what's the plan once you've finished helping your friend ?"


OP is an owner. It is his UK main residence, and will remain so if he is temporarily absent from it, therefore 2 people remain liable so a single person discount cannot be claimed. Just the same as his father cannot claim a discount when his son goes on holiday. No different if son is abroad "on work", but has not broken the link with his main residence.

removal of the son's liability is what will allow the father to claim SPD

Ta - it's not come out formatted well at all ! I agree spot on with what you've said - "intention to return" is the key aspect here and rests on the answer to "how long are you away for and what's the plan once you've finished helping your friend ?"

Craig

Alter_ego

I believe councils offer "single occupier" discount. Nothing to do with residence or ownership.

CIS

Alter_ego wrote: »

I believe councils offer "single occupier" discount. Nothing to do with residence or ownership.

Not ownership but it has everything to do with residence.

Craig

saajan_12

saajan_12 wrote: »

Yes, assuming you have actually moved out / abroad as opposed to being on holiday and assuming you don't necessarily expect to move back in
..
You don't have to be paying council tax if you have actually moved out. What residency issues / other problems do you expect?

00ec25 wrote: »

as CIS cautions, although as their formatting went wrong it is not as obvious as he intended, the father's ability to claim single person discount depends on the answer to the question "how long are you away for and what's the plan once you've finished helping your friend ?"


OP is an owner. It is his UK main residence, and will remain so if he is temporarily absent from it, therefore 2 people remain liable so a single person discount cannot be claimed. Just the same as his father cannot claim a discount when his son goes on holiday. No different if son is abroad "on work", but has not broken the link with his main residence.

removal of the son's liability is what will allow the father to claim SPD

I think that's pretty much what I said in my comments while quoting OP.. no liability for son / father can claim single person's discount IF son has actually moved out without expecting to return.

agrinnall

Although it has no impact on the answers I think that the "son" is more likely to be a "daughter" - user name (my emphasis) is "boywundazmum"

boywundazmum

thank you all firstly for your responses

I guess length of time is unknown at the moment and all based on how the business goes, could be a month could be 6 months before a return to uk and even then it might be only for a week or it might be for a few months then back to spain

I guess im asking what do i need to maintain in the UK to ensure i don't lose the right to vote, right to reside etc etc .... i also know its difficult when the answers aren't precise at the moment. Or am i making this harder than it needs to be? As mentioned, I am still working for a uk company, paying tax and national insurance ... does that carry any weight?

I guess the house will be a "base" for me if i return to the uk but for the moment i wont be living there .....

Can i be on voters role without being on council tax ?

Im thinking for the sake of the 25% discount my dad might get i should just remain on it until i know for sure.....