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Rented Address Not Registered By Developer

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  • fields_
    fields_ Posts: 3 Newbie
    elverson wrote: »
    Are the 'first 14' flats on the Council Tax database?
    The first 13 flats are. But the first 14 flats are on RM database.

    PS. had to remove link cause not allowed to post link
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    fields_ wrote: »
    The first 13 flats are. But the first 14 flats are on RM database.

    PS. had to remove link cause not allowed to post link

    For flats to be 'missing' isn't an uncommon occurrence, unfortunately.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    CIS wrote: »
    It's every bit the occupiers problem - they will be the one getting any backdated council tax demand due for the period of residence. The longer it's left the larger the balance will be,

    The valuation office need to be informed so they can come out and value it so a band can be set -only then can council tax be charged (this can, depending on the circumstances, be backdated).
    Sorry - I meant that rectification of this, however it was caused, is not the occupier's problem.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,709 Forumite
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    He's on the fiddle: Not registered property, possibly no planning permission or building regs approval.

    Call me cynical but £5 says he's fiddling elsewhere also - not declaring rent to HMRC in full, probably no landlord insurance (an issue if there's a problem), no EPC, no GSC & maybe unsafe electrics, etc etc etc..

    Agree you should start saving for council tax bill which may hit you.

    Think I'm gently & politely ask him for copy of council paperwork approving this separate dwelling & confirmation he has declared all rent income to HMRC. If for a moment unsure he has, grass the little scr*at up....
    https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business

    & inform council of what is going on
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Sorry - I meant that rectification of this, however it was caused, is not the occupier's problem.
    Ultimately it is their problem though - if the occupier leaves if the backdated bill gets larger and larger, and the local authority will pursue it once the property has been banded. The landlord is no more required to notify regarding the un-banded property than the tenant is - to the best of my knowledge there's nothing hidden away in the corners of the valuation regulations which require the owner to notify a new property, the legal responsibility is on the valuation office to maintain the list.

    A simple request to the local authority to create the property will usually result in the local authority passing the details to the valuation office, failing that a quick call to the valuation office will put in underway, it's not an onerous process.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    theartfullodger wrote: »
    He's on the fiddle: Not registered property, possibly no planning permission or building regs approval.

    Call me cynical but £5 says he's fiddling elsewhere also - not declaring rent to HMRC in full, probably no landlord insurance (an issue if there's a problem), no EPC, no GSC & maybe unsafe electrics, etc etc etc..

    Agree you should start saving for council tax bill which may hit you.

    Think I'm gently & politely ask him for copy of council paperwork approving this separate dwelling & confirmation he has declared all rent income to HMRC. If for a moment unsure he has, grass the little scr*at up....
    https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business

    & inform council of what is going on

    I get the same feeling as well - seen in to many times not to get suspicious.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Provided the tenant is putting aside the money he would have been paying for council tax, so that if/when he gets a bill he can pay it, the failure for the flat to be registered is NOT his problem.

    The owner (leaseholder?) of the flat should sort this. ie his landlord.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »
    Provided the tenant is putting aside the money he would have been paying for council tax, so that if/when he gets a bill he can pay it, the failure for the flat to be registered is NOT his problem.

    The owner (leaseholder?) of the flat should sort this. ie his landlord.

    The same situation applies to the owner - if he was to put money aside for any bill then that's all he needs to do.

    The problem is that the tenant, in the meantime, has a lot of problems which can crop up and which can be solved by one phone-call. Is the hassle worth it just to say I'm not making a phone-call ? Arguments over who should make the call can become minor issues.

    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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