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Beware new builds & nuisance neighbours
badaz52
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I just wanted to post this to any of you looking at purchasing a new build now or in the future and something many of us would routinely overlook.
One of the main issues many of us face in areas where we live or would like to live is compatibility with neighbours.
On existing estates it can be more tricky because of those who may have lived there for a long time and have certain habits and routines that they won't break especially for someone who has just moved in.
On new builds you would expect this sort of thing to be a little more easy going because everyone is new and friendly, however this isn't always the case and you should be aware of your rights (or lack of) if you come across any problems with your neighbours on a new estate.
On new developments the roads of the site usually remain unadopted until completion which on some large building sites can be several years. Usually if you have nuisance neighbours you would go to your local council right? well wrong on a new estate with unadopted roads you can't because the builder owns the roads and with the exception of right of access it is, until adoption a private road therefore the council have no jurisdiction.
This could be an absolute nightmare for a lot of people as you really have nowhere to go, the builders will not enter into any disputes with neighbours either and to be honest why would they but it leaves a massive hole and the potential for huge problems.
Some common issues that many of us face at least once with neighbours:
1. Ball Games
2. Parking inconsideratlely
3. Speeding
4. Barking dogs
5. Loud music
Expect to have to put up with these issues until the roads are adopted at the very least.
One of the main issues many of us face in areas where we live or would like to live is compatibility with neighbours.
On existing estates it can be more tricky because of those who may have lived there for a long time and have certain habits and routines that they won't break especially for someone who has just moved in.
On new builds you would expect this sort of thing to be a little more easy going because everyone is new and friendly, however this isn't always the case and you should be aware of your rights (or lack of) if you come across any problems with your neighbours on a new estate.
On new developments the roads of the site usually remain unadopted until completion which on some large building sites can be several years. Usually if you have nuisance neighbours you would go to your local council right? well wrong on a new estate with unadopted roads you can't because the builder owns the roads and with the exception of right of access it is, until adoption a private road therefore the council have no jurisdiction.
This could be an absolute nightmare for a lot of people as you really have nowhere to go, the builders will not enter into any disputes with neighbours either and to be honest why would they but it leaves a massive hole and the potential for huge problems.
Some common issues that many of us face at least once with neighbours:
1. Ball Games
2. Parking inconsideratlely
3. Speeding
4. Barking dogs
5. Loud music
Expect to have to put up with these issues until the roads are adopted at the very least.
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Or in other words, hell is other people....0
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ReadingTim wrote: »Or in other words, hell is other people....
Sure is, best of it is the houses on the estate I am currently living on range from £250k-£400k and are all detached freehold. If I was investing that sort of cash and saw adults playing football in the street around expensive houses and cars I would turn around and leave, I'm sure the builder would get involved if this nuisance lost them a few sales.....0 -
Usually if you have nuisance neighbours you would go to your local council right? well wrong on a new estate with unadopted roads you can't because the builder owns the roads and with the exception of right of access it is, until adoption a private road therefore the council have no jurisdiction.
Some common issues that many of us face at least once with neighbours:
1. Ball Games
2. Parking inconsideratlely
3. Speeding
4. Barking dogs
5. Loud music
I'm not sure what in practice you'd expect the council roads department to do about any of these things if it were a public road?0 -
I'm not sure what in practice you'd expect the council roads department to do about any of these things if it were a public road?
Most councils have by laws and routinely issue fines for causing a nuisance to neighbours.
The realism is there are far too many inconsiderate people in society and you shouldn't have to "put up" with anything that is a nuisance, we should all be allowed to go home and relax after a days work. The issue for me is that even though the road is not adopted it is a residential area within the boundaries of the local council and regardless of adoption the builders should have to adhere to local by laws and enforce them.0 -
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There are considerate and inconsiderate people living on both council and private estates, the fact you said dream on says a lot.ReadingTim wrote: »Dream on mate. You know the places where I see the most occurances of the sorts of behaviour you describe? Council estates.0 -
I just wanted to post this to any of you looking at purchasing a new build now or in the future and something many of us would routinely overlook.
One of the main issues many of us face in areas where we live or would like to live is compatibility with neighbours.
On existing estates it can be more tricky because of those who may have lived there for a long time and have certain habits and routines that they won't break especially for someone who has just moved in.
On new builds you would expect this sort of thing to be a little more easy going because everyone is new and friendly, however this isn't always the case and you should be aware of your rights (or lack of) if you come across any problems with your neighbours on a new estate.
On new developments the roads of the site usually remain unadopted until completion which on some large building sites can be several years. Usually if you have nuisance neighbours you would go to your local council right? well wrong on a new estate with unadopted roads you can't because the builder owns the roads and with the exception of right of access it is, until adoption a private road therefore the council have no jurisdiction.
This could be an absolute nightmare for a lot of people as you really have nowhere to go, the builders will not enter into any disputes with neighbours either and to be honest why would they but it leaves a massive hole and the potential for huge problems.
Some common issues that many of us face at least once with neighbours:
1. Ball Games
2. Parking inconsideratlely
3. Speeding
4. Barking dogs
5. Loud music
Expect to have to put up with these issues until the roads are adopted at the very least.
You sound like fun.0 -
Some common issues that many of us face at least once with neighbours:
1. Ball Games
2. Parking inconsideratlely
3. Speeding
4. Barking dogs
5. Loud music
Expect to have to put up with these issues until the roads are adopted at the very least.
I had to put up with all of those for a number of years, on a council owned road. Council and police did nothing to help on these matters.
Thankfully it was solved last year, as the tenants moved out to take up residence at Her Majesty's pleasure.Zebras rock0 -
They really don't. Noise from dogs/loud music has got nothing to do with roads. Speeding is a police matter, not council. So is inconsiderate parking, if it's actually illegal - though the chances of the police taking an interest in the average residential cul-de-sac is unlikely. And I can't remember ever seeing someone fined for playing ball games, whether it's covered by by-laws or not.Most councils have by laws and routinely issue fines for causing a nuisance to neighbours.0 -
The way to get round this if at all possible is to not buy a new build. At least if it is a second hand house you can sell it without losing a lot of money unlike a new build that loses value as soon as you buy it.0
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