trisodium phosphate??

moneyistooshorttomention

As in I'm currently following some instructions I found on google to remove mould from concrete. These started with cleaning with a strong detergent solution (just done - tick) and end up with "If still not gone - then use trisodium phosphate with a solution of bleach and water".

So I googled to see what trisodium phosphate is and its not very clear. I did see a couple of adverts coming up by the side of google entries for borax substitute. Hence duly wondered if it's actually borax substitute or borax by another name?

I do have some borax tucked away somewhere - and, if that's what it is, then I already have what I need. If it isn't - then that's summat else to get.

Confusion added to when I see that it's actually added to some foods and there is mention of baking soda (ie bicarbonate of soda) coming up...

Is it borax? Is it borax substitute? Is it bicarbonate of soda? Or is it something else - and I'd better just whack in another order to Amazon for something specifically labelled as that.

Jonesya

You might want to try the bleach solution first - bleach alone will kill and clean most mould.

Tiexen

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

As in I'm currently following some instructions I found on google to remove mould from concrete. These started with cleaning with a strong detergent solution (just done - tick) and end up with "If still not gone - then use trisodium phosphate with a solution of bleach and water".

So I googled to see what trisodium phosphate is and its not very clear. I did see a couple of adverts coming up by the side of google entries for borax substitute. Hence duly wondered if it's actually borax substitute or borax by another name?

I do have some borax tucked away somewhere - and, if that's what it is, then I already have what I need. If it isn't - then that's summat else to get.

Confusion added to when I see that it's actually added to some foods and there is mention of baking soda (ie bicarbonate of soda) coming up...

Is it borax? Is it borax substitute? Is it bicarbonate of soda? Or is it something else - and I'd better just whack in another order to Amazon for something specifically labelled as that.

Seems Borax is a natural product and trisodium phosphate isn't:


Borax

What is borax? Sodium borate. Borax is a naturally occurring mineral and is used as a cleaner, deodorizer and disinfectant.

How do I use borax? 1 cup borax to 1 gallon of warm water for washing your walls before painting

Pros:

Removes mold and mildew
Eco-friendly
Not harmful to the environment
Has many other household uses:
Stain remover
Laundry aid (gets your whites whiter)
Deodorizer
Pest prevention
Removes mould
Easy to find at grocery and other retail stores

Cons:

Eye irritant
Mild skin irritant – probably due to high alkalinity but is not absorbed through the skin
Poisonous and harmful to pets

TSP

What is TSP? TSP stands for trisodium phosphate

How do I use TSP? 1/2 cup of TSP to 2 gallons of warm water

Pros:

Heavy-duty cleaning agent
Removes grease and dirt
Removes mold and mildew

Cons:

TSP contains phosphorus that changes the pH balance of lakes, rivers and stream (phosphorus entering the water system can call excessive algae growth which in turn starves the water of oxygen)
Can cause severe eye damage
Can burn skin
Must wear safety glasses and gloves
Dangerous to plants
Extremely harmful and poisonous to pets

[Deleted User]

Hi,

why not power wash first, then use bleach to seep into awkward bits?

moneyistooshorttomention

Guess power washing is precluded by 2 things in this case:
- I dont have a power washer
- The concrete concerned is inside my house.

frankie

I think Hydrochorate would do it. I've used it diluted and in a 500ml spray bottle for indoor use.

Its the stuff farmers use for dairy cleaning, get mine from Mole Valley Farmers.

A.Penny.Saved

Tiexen wrote: »

Seems Borax is a natural product and trisodium phosphate isn't:


Borax

What is borax? Sodium borate. Borax is a naturally occurring mineral and is used as a cleaner, deodorizer and disinfectant.

How do I use borax? 1 cup borax to 1 gallon of warm water for washing your walls before painting

Pros:

Removes mold and mildew
Eco-friendly
Not harmful to the environment
Has many other household uses:
Stain remover
Laundry aid (gets your whites whiter)
Deodorizer
Pest prevention {additionally - it's great at killing many insects and weeds}
Removes mould
Easy to find at grocery and other retail stores

It was until the EU decided to ban it which is in the process ATM. It's a very cheap source of boron which is anti inflammatory and good for bones. The drug companies didn't like it so used their influence within the EU to get it banned by encouraging ie paying for research suggesting that it is dangerous. That is the danger of centralised control, people like to gain influence and control and the EU is the perfect centralised power for that. It's yet another reason why I voted to exit the EU. A decision I have no regrets about.

I purchased some from APCPure and when I tried to order again they would not sell it to the public for this reason. I had to purchase from eBay. Most stores no longer sell it. It's been replaced with borax substitute which is no where near as useful.

Cons:

Eye irritant
Mild skin irritant – probably due to high alkalinity but is not absorbed through the skin
Poisonous and harmful to pets