Creocote - how long between recoats?

JustAnotherSaver

As per thread title really.

I'm talking about typical time between recoats & not if all perfect conditions are met constantly day after day etc.

These things are often never as long as what the tub claims so since there's a fair chance some of you have used this stuff (the imitation stuff, not the proper coal tar) i was wondering on the time between recoats.

Davesnave

To be fair, even the real stuff fades after one winter.

I tend to do mine every other year, real stuff outside and Creocote within.
It's pretty much faded after that time.

I do it to kill bugs, mainly. For aesthetics, I'd use something else.

JustAnotherSaver

As far as protection against the elements goes, in this day & age, what's the best sort of product out there (unless there's something daft out there at £100 per 1ltr then obviously nothing like that)?

The bit I'm treating at the moment is nothing important but I also have fence panels & a gate to do.
The gate is pressure treated tannalised timber but the fence panels were only 'dip treated'.

getmore4less

For longevity up the quality of the initial install.

The fence at the bottom of our garden aris rail built on 100mm posts 25years and not showing signs of serious damage, cap piece needs replacing gravel boards ok.
Been painted one side once.

Fences between gardens 75mm post and panels has had everything replaced over time even with painting

Concrete post and gravel boards are another longevity solution

Gloomendoom

Davesnave wrote: »

To be fair, even the real stuff fades after one winter.

I tend to do mine every other year, real stuff outside and Creocote within.
It's pretty much faded after that time.

I do it to kill bugs, mainly. For aesthetics, I'd use something else.

Same here. Every other year.

I actually like the look of creosote/creocote once it has weathered down a bit.

Davesnave

I agree that the initial purchase is the most important thing. Nothing will save a cheap panel. It'll either warp and break, or rot and have the nails rust out, regardless of what's put on it for decoration.

My Jacksons panels and posts were 20+ years when I last saw them and still fine. I never did a thing to them.

I don't do pretty any more and I only have stock fencing, but most of that's guaranteed15 years, apart from the few that broke after 6 years in the ground, 'cos I was daft enough to support a local business with a cheapo product.

JustAnotherSaver

getmore4less wrote: »

Concrete post and gravel boards are another longevity solution

I know they tick the longevity box but i think they look awful. For me they're ok with a base panel with a fence panel on top but when i just see a stack of base panels on top of each other i think it looks so bad.




I know it's drifting a little off topic but what's the best sort of panel anyway for the wind? Would that be the hit-&-miss panels?

We have some cheap panels out the back. I've no idea how old they are. The previous owner put them in. They've been painted although i guess with some cheap paint since there was a load of B&Q own paint tubs in the shed when we got the house. They feel so flimsy.

Slinky

We've got panels from Homebase which have been in 21 years. Dad used to treat them with creosote but since we can't get that anymore, we've moved over to creocote. They don't get a lot of sun so aren't subject to fading, we probably paint both sides every 4 years. They have concrete posts but wooden gravel boards. The boards are resting on half bricks at either end just to life them off the ground an inch or so.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

agree with previous posters, creocote.

I find it easier to apply than ducksback, or the last for 5 years stuff.

Only two colours though light or dark.

JustAnotherSaver

[Deleted User] wrote:

Hi,

agree with previous posters, creocote.

I find it easier to apply than ducksback, or the last for 5 years stuff.

Only two colours though light or dark.

Yeah i found the application to be really good with the Creocote i used. Went a long way. I didn't think it'd cover half as much as it did.

On the other hand i find the DucksBack to be nowhere near what the tin says as far as coverage goes.



Another off topic thought - how do the posts for jetty's get on? They're submerged in water permanently yet they last a long long time. How are they treated? (obviously i'm not on about painting it pretty colours lol. It just came to me then i wonder how they last so long without rotting).

Apodemus

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

As far as protection against the elements goes, in this day & age, what's the best sort of product out there (unless there's something daft out there at £100 per 1ltr then obviously nothing like that)?

The bit I'm treating at the moment is nothing important but I also have fence panels & a gate to do.
The gate is pressure treated tannalised timber but the fence panels were only 'dip treated'.

For longevity, you can't beat waste engine oil diluted with diesel. Probably the cheapest option too.