Fined for not paying £0 on my road tax

GothicStirling

Nasqueron wrote: »

Same reason they keep banging on about the environment then keep freezing fuel duty - too many voters would be annoyed.

The easiest and most logical thing (hence why it won't be done) is to make all VED £0 (maybe some exceptions if you choose to buy a particularly bad and inefficient one) and whack the duty all on fuel thus you could do incentives for say LPG or whatever and the more you drive, the more you pay rather than an arbitrary figure which fails when you have say a salesman with a low VED car that drives 30k a year vs a high VED car driven under 1000 miles a year

Why should an (clean) electric/hybrid vehicle be penalised, when a dirty diesel who just takes his car on short journeys doesn't?

prowla

glentoran99 wrote: »

Its referred to as vehicle Tax as on gov.uk I see no reference to licencing


Tax your vehicle
Report an untaxed vehicle
Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax

The first link there does however say:

You must tax your vehicle even if you don’t have to pay anything, for example if you’re exempt because you’re disabled.

And the last one says:

You still need to apply for vehicle tax even if you don’t need to pay vehicle tax.

prowla

GothicStirling wrote: »

Why should an (clean) electric/hybrid vehicle be penalised, when a dirty diesel who just takes his car on short journeys doesn't?

Well, there is the environmental impact of building the car , of generating the power, and of having the road system there.

The exemptions are more there to influence short-medium term trends.

markudman

sheramber wrote: »

Could the DVLA have tried to take the DD from the old account and it was rejected? hence taking two payments later.

tHE DVLA send out a letter when the tax has not been paid.

A Late Licensing Penalty (LLP) letter is issued automatically
.
LLP set at £80 reduced to £40 if
paid within 28 days.
If the penalty is not paid, the case
will be referred to a debt
collection Agency.

Could that letter have been sent to your old address and that is why you did not receive it?

You have admitted the tax was paid late. the fact that it was not intentional is irrelevant.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-dvla-fine
You can!!!8217;t appeal if you:

changed your address but didn!!!8217;t tell DVLA
lost your paperwork or you never received a reminder from DVLA
forgot or were away when you had to tax, insure or register your vehicle as off the road (SORN)
missed a Direct Debit payment because of a problem with your bank

You must pay the fine as soon as possible if you don!!!8217;t have a valid reason.

None of the above DVLA had my new address, so did the Debt collectors

Nasqueron

GothicStirling wrote: »

Why should an (clean) electric/hybrid vehicle be penalised, when a dirty diesel who just takes his car on short journeys doesn't?

I think you maybe misunderstood the point, that system doesn't penalised electric or hybrid, it penalises the dirty diesel. An electric car is going to pay £0 either way, a hybrid vehicle still emits CO2, it just doesn't as much and gets better MPG (thus is cheaper under that system), the dirty diesel will pay more

Nasqueron

prowla wrote: »

Well, there is the environmental impact of building the car , of generating the power, and of having the road system there.

The exemptions are more there to influence short-medium term trends.

1) applies to all cars
2) you can generate power cleanly and power is needed to refine oil anyway
3) you need roads, hence general taxation which pays for them, VED is nothing to do with road building

ryanrafferty96

agrinnall wrote: »

No chance, if they let one off they'd have to do the same for anyone. It's perfectly clear that you need to renew the VED each year (I also have a £0 car) and failure to comprehend that isn't an acceptable excuse.

Actually it's not that clear at all. I received several letters and not one of them mentioned what to do if the amount due is £0. This is my first car, how was I supposed to know that you still had to call and pay £0.00? The letters also mention paying my tax, I'm pretty sure you can't pay £0. Also, by definition, tax is a financial charge or some other type of contribution that goes to a government.

twhitehousescat

ryanrafferty96 wrote: »

Actually it's not that clear at all. I received several letters and not one of them mentioned what to do if the amount due is £0. This is my first car, how was I supposed to know that you still had to call and pay £0.00? The letters also mention paying my tax, I'm pretty sure you can't pay £0. Also, by definition, tax is a financial charge or some other type of contribution that goes to a government.

does the letter say "tax" , or vehicle excise duty? , there is a difference

on your car for example no DUTY is payable upon applying for useage on the road

unholyangel

twhitehousescat wrote: »

does the letter say "tax" , or vehicle excise duty? , there is a difference

on your car for example no DUTY is payable upon applying for useage on the road

But the offence is keeping an unlicensed vehicle (no mention of duty). £0 rated cars are not exempt from the licence, only from the fee payable to obtain it.

tho_2

ryanrafferty96 wrote: »

Actually it's not that clear at all. I received several letters and not one of them mentioned what to do if the amount due is £0. This is my first car, how was I supposed to know that you still had to call and pay £0.00? The letters also mention paying my tax, I'm pretty sure you can't pay £0. Also, by definition, tax is a financial charge or some other type of contribution that goes to a government.

It's pretty clear. It states just below the 6/12/sorn and the n/a direct options.

"You must either:
- Tax your vehicle; even if you don't pay.
- Tell us is if the vehicle is off the road (SORN); or
- Tell us if you no longer own the vehicle"

You also don't need to call, go online, enter the code and renew for a year. And as for not telling you what to do. The big blue box says ring or go online and tax your vehicle?