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Looking for advice

Hi,

I had a parking 'ticket' through the post from New Generation Parking Management back a few weeks ago.

To give a bit of background I had attended a charity event and mistakenly parked on land owned by the business premises next to the building where the event was being held. I genuinly had no idea I was breaking any rules by parking where I did.

The notice I received in the post told me I had to pay £100 or £60 in the first two weeks. I ignored this letter and I have now received another in the post this week which is headed 'Final Reminder'.

I've read the newbie sticky post at the top of the forum but I was wondering my best course of action now as I am now outside of the appeal window?
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,488 Forumite
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    Ignore them until court claim (or Letter before Claim, which needs a response) then defend and win...that's it, in a nutshell.

    DO NOT PAY.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • biged670
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    In this second letter I have received it states the following...

    "If settlement is not received within 14 days of this notice we reserve the right to take further action to recover this debt and will result in your details being forwarded on to a debt recovery agency and/or you may be pursued for the outstanding debtthrough the courts under the POFA act 2012"

    Do I need to worry about this?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Nope. Not sure what you need to know that's not already covered in post #4 of 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST' (post #4 of it being all about 'ignore the debt collector letter chains' stage).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • biged670
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    I have read the information you refer to, but it is a bit overwhelming and a lot to take in. I am just looking for some addtional guidance and I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

    In your post above you refer to 'a letter before claim'. I am assuming this is the letter telling me It's being taken to court?

    If so, I assume I then follow this advice from the newbie guide?...

    If the letter threatens court imminently, or a solicitor like 'Wright Hassall(!) or LPC Law, then consider responding to tell the debt collector that the charge is disputed/denied, and send a robust appeal as the registered keeper (NOT DRIVER!) to the PPC as discussed here:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,488 Forumite
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    I have read the information you refer to, but it is a bit overwhelming and a lot to take in

    What, just post #4, only post #4. Which simply says - ignore debt collector letters. Is this one easier to follow?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5035663
    In your post above you refer to 'a letter before claim'. I am assuming this is the letter telling me It's being taken to court?
    Not if it's a debt collector version, they lie!
    If so, I assume I then follow this advice from the newbie guide?...
    Yes if you get a real LBCCC, start at post #2 of the NEWBIES thread which covers that stage onwards and how to win a defended case.
    If the letter threatens court imminently, or a solicitor like 'Wright Hassall(!) or LPC Law, then consider responding to tell the debt collector that the charge is disputed/denied, and send a robust appeal as the registered keeper (NOT DRIVER!) to the PPC as discussed here:
    Yes you could respond to any solicitor letter but to be fair, I must change that because neither example is good (WH letters are 99% just debt collector fake ones and LPC Law don't really feature at all). Thanks for pointing that out, I will edit it because I don't recommend replying to all WH letters as they are invariably debt letters.

    Anyway this is nothing to worry about, sleep well, this isn't a fine and is well worth the fight, if needed.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • biged670
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    I've just had my first debt collector letter from 'Financial Enforcement Company'. Charge is now up to £160. As per the advice of the newbie sticky I am going to ignore this letter. How many letters do they usually send before escalating to court. How is the LBC letter distinguished exactly?

    Cheers
  • fisherjim
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    biged670 wrote: »
    I've just had my first debt collector letter from 'Financial Enforcement Company'. Charge is now up to £160. As per the advice of the newbie sticky I am going to ignore this letter. How many letters do they usually send before escalating to court. How is the LBC letter distinguished exactly?

    Cheers

    The charge has not gone up to £160 the muppet debt collectors have just slapped on their fat fee for template letter sending.

    An LBC won't come from debt collectors they usually threaten they are recommending that the ppc commence legal action but they don't really do that as they get nothing, they just give up.

    Clue: an LBC is usually titled Letter Before Claim or Letter Before Action!
  • Umkomaas
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    FEC a relatively new kid on the block. Have a look at their website.

    http://www.thefec.co.uk

    Set up to specifically chase PCNs
    FEC has been created to offer a bespoke solution in collecting outstanding Parking Charge Notices.

    Really? ANPR technology? How does that work then?
    FEC use the latest Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) and digital technology in each case. Our ANPR technology and unique back office IT systems will guarantee that no stone will be left unturned in locating even your most elusive debtors.

    Seem to be misrepresenting things a tad.
    Once your debtor is traced and located, we make contact by letter, electronic means & telephone. Failure agree repayment terms will result in civil court proceedings.

    Look who are FEC directors:

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10055453/officers

    Look who are New Generation Parking directors:

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05879515/officers

    All part of the smoke and mirrors game played out by this truly awful skimdustry. Addresses in Regent Street and Canary Wharf - my @rse!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy
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    edited 13 May 2017 at 11:32AM
    biged670 wrote: »
    I've just had my first debt collector letter from 'Financial Enforcement Company'. Charge is now up to £160. As per the advice of the newbie sticky I am going to ignore this letter. How many letters do they usually send before escalating to court. How is the LBC letter distinguished exactly?

    Cheers

    Oh dear, another lackie bunch of the money scam collectors

    And they say on their faded web site

    "The Financial Enforcement Company (FEC) has offices strategically based around the UK to maximise the opportunity to collect outstanding Parking Charges."

    No doubt some commission earning bods working from home

    Dream on FEC, DREAM ON:rotfl:
  • waamo
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    Here is a bit more information on them http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/New_Generation_Parking_Management.html

    They do sometimes issue court papers but it's not very often. Most likely people they consider an easy target looking at those figures.

    If you do get court papers a good defence should see them off.
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