UKPC appeal rejected, big surprise!

Coupon-mad

It might give me a problem with the Popla appeal as they ask "Are you submitting this Appeal on behalf of someone else?".

The answer is no. Never say yes to that!

You are appealing as you, for you, in your name if you were given the POPLA code (even as the resident, not driver/keeper). It is yours to appeal. The funny thing is, UKPC might not even realise you are neither the driver nor keeper! Hahaha! You can't be liable at all

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Show us your POPLA appeal over the weekend first, stop trying to submit it before we've looked. Include reference to the fact UKPC are subject to a winding up Order and were found to have falsified photos a year ago, so this is hardly evidence of 'parking professionals'...

But you need the appeal to be long & detailed like all the others on here. State in the first line that you were not the driver nor the keeper but UKPC don't appeal to have grasped that fact and have given you a POPLA code.

Superhoop_2

Many thanks again to all replies. Coupon-mad suggested that I post my POPLA appeal on here for your review before I send it. Can I send it just to Coupon-mad? How then?
Or is it just ok for all to see, after removing any sensitive info?

safarmuk

You can post it here, just remove all information that can identify you such as, for example, PCN number, vehicle registration, name, address, POPLA code, any other reference etc.

Replace any of that with XXXX or <my name>, <my POPLA code>, <my registration> etc. whichever you prefer.

The_Deep

Better to post it on here, CM may have a training day or a football match to watch.

Superhoop_2

Umm... getting a bit bogged down with all the legalise contained in the POPLA appeal examples.
Also, to my knowledge an NTK has never been issued and so that might be case enough for this ticket to be cancelled. The parking ticket was issued on 27th January 2017 and so it's well after 56 days since the ticket was issued.
However, you must remember that I did request that all correspondence be sent to myself, so maybe that negates the position regarding the NTK above?

Anyway, I've copied a version of my proposed POPLA appeal here; apologies if it sounds a little too much like a story and not a legal appeal.

I would be very grateful if anyone thinks this has a chance, or could make some suggestions.

Many thanks.

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Name:
Mobile No.

POPLA Reference No :
UKPC Reference No :
Registration Number :

The site is a private car park for 72 residential flats. UKPC are the parking control company.

Dear POPLA Adjudicator,

I am not the keeper of the car, but I am the leaseholder of the numbered parking space, and I am the person that UKPC have issued the POPLA code to. I raised the appeal on the UKPC website. Communication from UKPC has been via email.

To my knowledge there has been no NTK issued.

However, I do wish to deal with this appeal personally, in my name, as I do not want to further inconvenience my visitor (plumber) who was acting on my advice in an emergency.

My visitor left his car in my numbered car parking space with a clear sign in his window saying EMERGENCY PLUMBING AT NO. nn, and his telephone number.
The flat is literally 4 steps away from where the car was parked and the parking warden couldn’t even be bothered to ring the bell. The car park number is the same as the flat number. The sign that my visitor left inside his window can be clearly seen on the UKPC website.

I spoke to the Parking Warden as he was leaving the site and asked him why he didn’t bother to ring the bell and he apologised and said that he would get the ticket cancelled. That didn’t happen.

I appealed to UKPC on the basis that as I am the leaseholder of the numbered parking space and so how could it possibly be causing a parking problem or inconvenience to anyone else. Also the Attendant showed no common sense whatsoever in not walking the 3 steps and ringing the flat where the driver was fixing a serious problem at my request.

It’s also the case that UKPC have in the past cancelled parking tickets in similar situations when the site management company have requested it, however I didn’t know this at the time of my appeal.

It’s not so surprising really that UKPC have rejected my appeal, I understand that they reject almost all appeals and that they are currently the subject of a winding up Order, and were found to have falsified photos last year. Hardly evidence of being ‘Parking professionals’.


How can there be a ‘legitimate interest’ in penalising residents for using parking spaces, under the excuse of a scheme where ostensibly and as far as the landowner is concerned, the parking firm is contracted for the benefit of the residents. It is contrary to the requirement of good faith and ‘out of all proportion to any legitimate interest’ to fine residents or their visitors for using the parking spaces provided.

The presence of the Claimant on the land will have supposedly been to prevent parking by uninvited persons, for the benefit of the actual leaseholders. Instead, a predatory operation has been carried out on those very people whose interests the Claimant was purportedly there to uphold.