Fixed term to permanent interview

Hello

I work in the NHS on a fixed term contract for the last two and half years
We have just found it the whole team is to be made permanent but each job is now to re advertised to the public, in the interests of fairness

Is this right - as we could all potentially lose our job ?

Any advice please
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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    you have been there over two years.

    To not renew the contract would be a redundancy.

    if the job still exist they may have a problem recruiting someone else and making you redundant.

    it may be local management have decided this as that will be in the guidelines for jobs.
    They may not be aware of the issue of not renewing your contracts, check if they have had HR input and understand the potential issue.
  • restless6
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    The current fixed term contract is due to expire end of June 2017
    So I imagine they just won't renew

    This affects a team of 12 as it was set up as a pilot project so no one else is currently doing this job except us
  • getmore4less
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    restless6 wrote: »
    The current fixed term contract is due to expire end of June 2017
    So I imagine they just won't renew

    This affects a team of 12 as it was set up as a pilot project so no one else is currently doing this job except us

    how can they make you redundant if the jobs will be continuing?
  • restless6
    restless6 Posts: 469 Forumite
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    I don't know ?!
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    So the first stage is that you need to ask the management for the answer. It's kind of obvious, but most people overlook it! We can't give you an explanation for why they have decided this, or what options you may have, based just on the description of what you have been told will happen. We need to hear what the employer says is the reason. There may be an error. There may be a lawful reason. But we can't tell. Ask the employer - the manager, or HR to explain why this is being done. Then if the answer isn't what toy wasn't, come back and there may be advice to consider.
  • restless6 wrote: »
    Hello

    I work in the NHS on a fixed term contract for the last two and half years
    We have just found it the whole team is to be made permanent but each job is now to re advertised to the public, in the interests of fairness

    Is this right - as we could all potentially lose our job ?

    Any advice please


    Its probably a tick box exercise that wastes everybody's time not to mention the money it will cost
  • jobbingmusician
    jobbingmusician Posts: 20,347 Forumite
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    I'm surprised no-one has asked this question so far....

    Who is your employer? (NHS or not?) The way you have phrased the q suggests you may be working for an agency or subcontractor, so we may be talking about (possible) TUPE..........
    Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).
  • restless6
    restless6 Posts: 469 Forumite
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    I work for the NHS
    It was my manager that told me of these changes
  • restless6
    restless6 Posts: 469 Forumite
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    The manager said because the job was initially advertised as fixed term as it was a pilot project, now it has to be the advertised as it is going to be permanent
    She said this means it was unfair on other potential employees who may have been put off by the fixed term
    So now it has to go externally again

    I was wondering if there was any way we could challenge this but it seems not
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    I would still go back with the redundancy case(could cost a loads if there are long term NHS people in the positions).

    check the policies at your trust on redundancy, redeployment and if those "at risk" get any priority on potentially suitable alternatives.

    It seems to be the policy in many trusts those at risk get priority over external and internal candidates for suitable alternative

    if the jobs will essentially be the same as your existing ones they will qualify as suitable alternative.
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