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Relocating to/near the coast
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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »West Wales is also rainier (and windier) than one might expect.
Whatever happened to all those GCSE/ CSE geography lessons?0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »West Wales is also rainier (and windier) than one might expect. The weather here is still a bit of a "shock to the system" to me and I do long for "normal" weather sometimes (ie what I personally am used to).
If you move to an area with worse weather than you're used to (ie the thought of what the weather is doing never crosses your mind before you decide what you're going to do) then it comes as a surprise to find YOU adapting to the weather.....
Cue me standing there this morning in the chaos of the redecoration of my new kitchen being completed and deciding "I'll have another room redecorated next winter...then I'll have another one redecorated the following winter.....etc". I wouldnt dream of thinking like that in my own area - but here I've had to spend so much time cooped up indoors over the winter that I'm not going to waste a scrap of summer doing any indoors jobs. It's all that sort of thing - ie a way of thinking that goes "I'll major on tedious stuff in the winter and do what I want in the summer" that occurs to you if you move to worse weather.
There must be plenty of retirees moving here from England though - which is just as well from my pov (ie as I can readily move in circles where English is the default language and am just unable to go to specific "Welsh cultural things - eg eisteddfod type things" as the default language at those is Welsh and so I can't join in). Memories of going to one and the only people I could talk to were my English friends I'd gone with and the man on the right that translated the most important comments for me.
My decorator tells me that it's us English that keep him going for work here - as he doesnt get that much from "locals". I gather the other workmen round here are pretty much the same and it's the talk of the better workmen here as to how busy they are - and I see loads of their vans etc racing round from house to house here and there is obviously a lot of work being done on houses here. So it seems quite a few of us are moving here.
Welsh is the language of the country. You chose to move there, unfortunately. If you could go five minutes without complaining about it, it would be nice.
No, what you want is for the entire culture to be eradicated and replaced with people like you. A nightmarish community of retirees who had nothing in their lives and went somewhere where there were cheap houses so they "could have a detached". No friends, no family, no life to leave behind. Why do you think that is?0 -
I relocated from the midlands to the north west coast at Morecambe seven years ago and it is wonderful. The town, like many a less fashionable seaside town, has its difficulties but people are trying to improve it.
I live 50 yards from the sea, and in a few moments will be walking along the prom under a cloudless blue sky, looking across the ever changing bay towards the lake district hills. 30 minutes drive to the Lakes, 30 minutes drive to the Dales (thank you new road to the M6), 20 minutes drive to the Trough of Bowland, 60 second walk to the beach.
Lancaster ( 3 miles away) is a thriving university town full of history, with fabulous train links. Manchester is an hour away for big city stuff.
Oh, and my four bedroom three bathroom victorian villa with 11'6 ceilings and original features cost me less than £200,000.
When we moved all our friends said "why on earth would you want to move there?". When they visit they always say "now we understand".0 -
We live in West Wales (Ceredigion) about 9 miles from the coast and have found that whilst property with a sea view can be a bit pricey, it's dirt cheap a few miles inland. It's very much like Cornwall but without the crowds and awful summer traffic.
I thought it was going to rain all the time but we've still got family living in Lincolnshire and our weather seems to be no wetter than there (I have a job which is weather dependant) and I think that most of the rain seems to fall more inland once it gets to the Brecons.
The only downside can be a scarcity of jobs but it depends on what you do for a living I suppose.0 -
bertiewhite wrote: »and I think that most of the rain seems to fall more inland once it gets to the Brecons.0
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You say you're wanting to move to the coast, but you don't say why. What stage in life are you at?
If you are retiring, then beware that very many other people retire to 'the coast', which has an effect on local services such as GPs and hospitals as this population ages.
If you are still working, be aware that trying to live a 'normal' life near a tourist spot can be challenging - traffic increases immensely during the summer, you get stuck behind caravans, and if your house is old and cute random Americans will think it's part of some theme park and start taking photos (and ask you to move out of shot - yes, it happened to me). And in the winter all the second-homes and holiday lets are empty, many of the cafes etc close and places can be quite dismal.
I'm not saying don't do it - I've lived and worked near the coast in Devon, Essex and on Shetland (where the American incident happened) - but do it with your eyes open.No longer a spouse, or trailing, but MSE won't allow me to change my username...0 -
You need to check out anywhere you are considering out of season. Going on holiday in July to a busy and lively place is very different to February. Some places can be bleak and deeply depressing out of season with businesses closed up, empty holiday homes and sleet blowing in off the sea. Check out the full reality before you make such a major decision.0
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"This is the coastal town they forgot to close down"- Morrissey.
I've met so many people convinced that Morrissey was singing about THEIR home town. As above, definitely visit out of season and see what it's really like.They are an EYESORES!!!!0 -
There's a couple of estuary towns I visit all year round that aren't especially depressing in winter, but then they're not strong holiday destinations, although they lie close to places that are.
This is why local knowledge and personal visits in all seasons are important precursors to purchase, or renting longer-term.0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »There must be plenty of retirees moving here from England though - which is just as well from my pov (ie as I can readily move in circles where English is the default language and am just unable to go to specific "Welsh cultural things - eg eisteddfod type things" as the default language at those is Welsh and so I can't join in). Memories of going to one and the only people I could talk to were my English friends I'd gone with and the man on the right that translated the most important comments for me.
My decorator tells me that it's us English that keep him going for work here - as he doesnt get that much from "locals". I gather the other workmen round here are pretty much the same and it's the talk of the better workmen here as to how busy they are - and I see loads of their vans etc racing round from house to house here and there is obviously a lot of work being done on houses here. So it seems quite a few of us are moving here.
I think you are probably a nice person, but you have displayed quite a nasty attitude here. Welsh is the language of the country, that in some parts has still not been eradicated. To simply presume that you are better because one person has perceived that he makes more income from English speakers is incredibly rude. It's really no different to the boorish Brits who have invaded parts of Spain, refuse to integrate and shout at the locals in English, simply because they have more money.
To the OP, if you draw a line from Llanelli to Wrexham, anywhere west of this is Welsh speaking to some degree, and if moving here you will get much more from life if you integrate and learn to speak some Welsh.0
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