The election that might make a difference and is too close to call thread - France

michaels

vivatifosi wrote: »

Did he just give that speech without an autocue? I can't see one anywhere on the stage. Seriously impressive if he did.

What a sorry world we live in that a politician speaking without an autocue is noteworthy

michaels

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

And sanity returns...

The far right gets a thumping great kicking in the polls with a resounding vote for the EU and centrism.

So either you support the national front or you are voting for the EU....truly the world view of the unelected euro elite

vivatifosi

michaels wrote: »

What a sorry world we live in that a politician speaking without an autocue is noteworthy

Hey michaels, you've known me on here for a good eight or so years. You must know by now that what I find noteworthy can be somewhat tangential:D.

He did speak very well and fluidly though. Not all politicians are great orators, with or without an autocue.

zagubov

Maybe they've voted in a guy that's clever enough to do the job, instead of just being well-connected enough. We can hope.

mystic_trev

It's hardly been a ringing endorsement for the French Electoral system. How Le Pen even managed to make it to the final hurdle, makes the French voter look a right numptie. For us it would be like a choice between the Green Party and UKIP!

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

michaels wrote: »

So either you support the national front or you are voting for the EU....truly the world view of the unelected euro elite

Macron is unashamedly 100% pro-EU.

And I'm fully entitled to a modicum of smugness tonight after making a small wager on his success.;)

vivatifosi

mystic_trev wrote: »

It's hardly been a ringing endorsement for the French Electoral system. How Le Pen even managed to make it to the final hurdle, makes the French voter look a right numptie. For us it would be like a choice between the Green Party and UKIP!

I don't think it makes French voters look like numpties, but certainly the political environment there is not in a good way. It doesn't help that Fillion got caught with his hand in the collection box, or that Hollande is incompetent. If I lived there I would be exasperated with the politicians. Heck, they may even rank lower there than estate agents.

Imagine waking up in the UK to find that the BNP were the official opposition. #badnightmare

michaels

vivatifosi wrote: »

I don't think it makes French voters look like numpties, but certainly the political environment there is not in a good way. It doesn't help that Fillion got caught with his hand in the collection box, or that Hollande is incompetent. If I lived there I would be exasperated with the politicians. Heck, they may even rank lower there than estate agents.

Imagine waking up in the UK to find that the BNP were the official opposition. #badnightmare

What's in a name...yada yada yada

My hope is that 35% of French voters were voting for something more akin to ukip (don't forget we have given ukip 30+% in one national election) than the bnp/national front - the latter would be alarming.

michaels

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Macron is unashamedly 100% pro-EU.

And I'm fully entitled to a modicum of smugness tonight after making a small wager on his success.;)

You must have got that on pretty early as Macron has been the only winner ever since the Fillion imploded over the jobs for relies scandal and it became clear it would be him to face lepen.

mayonnaise

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

And sanity returns...

The far right gets a thumping great kicking in the polls with a resounding vote for the EU and centrism.

Resounding pro-EU vote in France, a win for pro-EU Rutte in Holland with massive gains for the very pro-EU Greens there, and Merkel's CDU making gains in Schleswig-Holstein.

Good to see that irrational, xenophobia based populism remains contained within the boundaries of little england.