the snap general election thread

Moby

A lot of tories won't be happy bunnies either when their accumulated wealth over 100k will in future have to go towards contributing to the profits of care companies instead of them being able to leave it to their families. The Bow Group don't like the new death tax at all:- 'The Bow Group, a Conservative party thinktank which used to be establishment and centrist but which in recent years has focused on goading the party leadership, has put out a press statement denouncing the care plans as “the biggest stealth tax in history”. This is from its chairman, Ben Harris-Quinney. These proposals will mean that the majority of property owning citizens could be transferring the bulk of their assets to the government upon death for care they have already paid a lifetime of taxes to receive. It is a tax on death and on inheritance. It will mean that in the end, the government will have taken the lion’s share of a lifetime earnings in taxes. If enacted, it is likely to represent the biggest stealth tax in history and when people understand that they will be leaving most of their estate to the government, rather than their families, the Conservative party will experience a dramatic loss of support.'

Filo25

Moby wrote: »

A lot of tories won't be happy bunnies either when their accumulated wealth over 100k will in future have to go towards contributing to the profits of care companies instead of them being able to leave it to their families. The Bow Group don't like the new death tax at all:- 'The Bow Group, a Conservative party thinktank which used to be establishment and centrist but which in recent years has focused on goading the party leadership, has put out a press statement denouncing the care plans as “the biggest stealth tax in history”. This is from its chairman, Ben Harris-Quinney. These proposals will mean that the majority of property owning citizens could be transferring the bulk of their assets to the government upon death for care they have already paid a lifetime of taxes to receive. It is a tax on death and on inheritance. It will mean that in the end, the government will have taken the lion’s share of a lifetime earnings in taxes. If enacted, it is likely to represent the biggest stealth tax in history and when people understand that they will be leaving most of their estate to the government, rather than their families, the Conservative party will experience a dramatic loss of support.'

It's a surprising policy for the Tories, given their core voting demographic, more like something I would have expected from Labour historically.

I suspect it will hurt them in the polls.

Arklight

Filo25 wrote: »

It's a surprising policy for the Tories, given their core voting demographic, more like something I would have expected from Labour historically.

I suspect it will hurt them in the polls.

I don't think it will hurt them in terms of their supporters' affiliation, but I suspect the Conservatives may suffer from comparatively low turnout among their base in this election.


They're running a negative campaign, they have just had a GE and a referendum and local elections, all three of which traditionally Tory voters will feel that they won.


There is now yet another GE of which the media is constantly saying Labour have no chance to win but which has nevertheless pulled some Tory policies leftwards. Other than that, Conservative activists have precious little to talk about on the doorstep other than a promise of more cuts and more austerity.

Filo25

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 45% (-4)
LAB: 32% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
UKIP: 6% (+3)

(via @YouGov / 16 - 17 May)


Westminster voting intention:

CON: 49% (-)
LAB: 34% (+8)
LDEM: 7% (-6)
GRN: 3% (+2)
UKIP: 2% (-2)

(via @IpsosMORI)

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 45% (-4)
LAB: 32% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
UKIP: 6% (+3)

(via @YouGov / 16 - 17 May)


Westminster voting intention:

CON: 49% (-)
LAB: 34% (+8)
LDEM: 7% (-6)
GRN: 3% (+2)
UKIP: 2% (-2)

(via @IpsosMORI)

Tim Farron has made a major political error thinking he could tap into the 48% without checking the facts - that 26% had become Re-Leavers....fool.

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

It's a surprising policy for the Tories, given their core voting demographic, more like something I would have expected from Labour historically.

I suspect it will hurt them in the polls.

Personally I don't have any problem with it. In fact.

Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt defended the manifesto proposal, telling BBC Breakfast: "Everyone will have the security of knowing that they can pass on £100,000 to their children and grandchildren. At the moment, you can be cleaned out to as little as £23,000 so that's four times more."

Filo25

setmefree2 wrote: »

Tim Farron has made a major political error thinking he could tap into the 48% without checking the facts - that 26% had become Re-Leavers....fool.

I think some of Farron's less than liberal views on gay rights probably didn't play well with the kind of voters who vote for the LibDems as well

Arklight

Well, Tory manifesto day is proving to be manna from heaven for Labour. Latest announcements, axing free school meals (well that's nice, we thought they had identified almost every possible expenditure that protected the vulnerable to axe, but they've found one that was hiding) and.... fracking.


Yes my jaw dropped at that tool. In my True Blue Home County if there is one thing that unites people in fury and has WI maams looking for a bulldozer to padlock themselves to, it's the prospect of the English countryside being fracked.


They could have shut up about it, they could have said nothing, but no - it's a policy. Oh well at least it'll reduce the number of fox hunts as the hounds might fall down a borehole.


Edit - and the triple-lock is going too. Oh dear, The Telegraph isn't very happy about any of this.

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

I think some of Farron's less than liberal views on gay rights probably didn't play well with the kind of voters who vote for the LibDems as well

Yes. Turns out he's neither Liberal or Democratic.

Conrad

setmefree2 wrote: »

Yes. Turns out he's neither Liberal or Democratic.

His speech last night had a rousing passage about giving the people the final say.


What an utter con, as his aim would be for the people to agree to Brussels having the final say on many aspects of British law and life thereafter, what an utter cheek to imply citizens democracy is his foremost concern. What kind of sheeple fall for this?