the snap general election thread

wotsthat

westernpromise wrote: »

If the alternative was racists. anti-Semites or supporters of Pol Pot, yes. You?

In the real world being a non-Tory doesn't make you an anti-semite, racist or Pol Pot supporter.

How happy were you with the outcome the last time a UK government had a huge majority and the opposition were tearing themselves apart?

gfplux

I know this thread is about the General Election but I hope that today everyone who can will be voting in the Local elections.
People died to give us the vote don't let them down.

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

I know this thread is about the General Election but I hope that today everyone who can will be voting in the Local elections.
People died to give us the vote don't let them down.

All I can say is that it has been very low key where I am no posters up only one leaflet through my door in fact I've never know it like this you would be hard pushed to know there was an election going on.

chris_m

ukcarper wrote: »

All I can say is that it has been very low key where I am no posters up only one leaflet through my door in fact I've never know it like this you would be hard pushed to know there was an election going on.

Same here, no posters, only one leaflet.

If I go into the next parliamentary constituency, however, there are orange posters everywhere - not sure if they went up for the council elections or just very quickly for the General Election, though.

Herzlos

gfplux wrote: »

Looking at Britain from across the Channel I often wonder "where the money goes"
I read, and hear (from friends and family) that Britain has..

Poor infrastructure, roads, rail, airports bridges etc.
Bus and train travel is very expensive.
Educations is underfunded.
NHS is underfunded.

On the other side of the balance sheet.

Income tax is too high.
VAT is too high.
Corporation Tax is too high.

So I ask myself. "Britain is one of the richest Country's in the World, where does the money go.


Perhaps I am missing something.

Incompetence and mismanagement mostly - selling off assets at well below market value, throwing massive resources into dealing with trivial issues, terrible finance deals and so on. Cutting costs across the board that just make things more costly to deal with (cutting at-home care, forcing people to go into hospital for things that could have been treated at home).

I do find some sad irony in the fact that many EU states make a profit from our poor excuse for public transport.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Time for a new party perhaps. The old party lines are redundant. I know of several labour supporters. Self made. Retired in their 50's , own property abroad, public sector pensions, etc. Still regard themselves as working class. I love pointing out that while they may have once been "poor" they are now far removed from the sink estates in this country. Certainly detached from how some people are forced to lived their lives.

I know lots of people who regard themselves as working class whilst being much more comfortable; it seems to be more based around how they grow up (what school they attended) and identify than how much they earn and where they currently live.

westernpromise

wotsthat wrote: »

In the real world being a non-Tory doesn't make you an anti-semite, racist or Pol Pot supporter.

It does if you vote for an anti-Semitic, racist or Marxist party. Nobody's forcing you to do so.

This is not a question of a legitimate party having a generally respectable manifesto and a few fringe loony candidates that it disowns. The anti-Semites, racists, and terrorist sympathisers are actually leading the party. They're not the anomaly.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

I know this thread is about the General Election but I hope that today everyone who can will be voting in the Local elections.
People died to give us the vote don't let them down.

"Us"?
Do you mean "you"?
Because I'm not sure how you will manage that yourself from Luxembourg; would you like to explain?
I'm guessing you had no leaflets through your door.

Herzlos

westernpromise wrote: »

It does if you vote for an anti-Semitic, racist or Marxist party. Nobody's forcing you to do so

Are any of the parties anti-semitic, terrorist sympathizing or marxist? Or are you just being hyperbolic because you don't like them?

Even assuming they were, which I don't believe, does that make them worse than the Tories?

I was going to ask if any of them were actually racist, but I don't have the ability to twist UKIP into anything else.

Moby

westernpromise wrote: »

There are times when an election offers you a test of your character and of your morality.

Voting either UKIP or Labour means you utterly fail the test.

So tell me about Theresa May's morality! What is she offering? What does she believe in?......... and don't give me nonsense like 'brexit means brexit' or her latest meaningless utterance 'strong stable Govmt'! If Labour had a decent leader....David Miliband, Chukka, Cooper, Starmer etc...they'd wipe the floor with her. Cooper used to shadow May at the Home Office and regularly spanked her, metaphorically speaking.