the snap general election thread

The_Last_Username

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Are you suggesting that Britain is a rotten tooth that needs to be extracted, never to be of any use going forward?
This is more reality

Oh dear.
Another one stuck in a country they hate?

I can assure you that you are not being detained against your will.
(Unless you are of course, which actually night explain quite a lot from reading your posts.)

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Does she know when to keep quiet?

Almost certainly more than you do.

BobQ

Sapphire wrote: »

Personally, I am tired of the sort of spin put out by people like Cameron and Bliar, which meanders around points and hides outright lies.

For me, Mrs May makes a refreshing change, perhaps because I prefer direct people rather than often meaningless advertising hype and similar, of the sort you also get in corporations.

Yes one whose negotiating tack is to show Junker that Clarke was right, she is a bloody difficult woman.

BobQ

http://www.markpack.org.uk/149652/kensington-constituency-poll/

Kensington Constituency Poll.


CON: 46% (-6)
LAB: 29% (-2)
LDEM: 17% (+11)
GRN: 7% (+2)

(via Survation / 25-27 Apr)
Chgs. w/ GE2015 result

Brexit message not going down so well in some constituencies.

BobQ

Sapphire wrote: »

Personally, I am tired of the sort of spin put out by people like Cameron and Bliar, which meanders around points and hides outright lies.

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I think most people would agree, but Mrs May's meandering around points and answering different questions to those asked last Sunday are hardly a good example either.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Yes one whose negotiating tack is to show Junker that Clarke was right, she is a bloody difficult woman.

The EU is setting the tone......... How many toys are going to get thrown out of the pram. Judging by early comments a considerable amount. Suspect the UK's monetary contribution is going to be sorely missed.

michaels

ukcarper wrote: »

We will have to see how things pan about but If the Tories do much to help low paid workers I will be very surprised.

Funnily enough ending unskilled immigration from lower paid countries will improve the chances for the low paid. Remember when Carney thought unemployment of 7% might lead to wage driven inflation but was wrong because actually there were atill another 20m unemployed europeans holding down uk wages.

michaels

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I'm happy to understand what she meant and am not going to be concerned over a semantic gaffe.

Yes, she messed up the points, but essentially her message was that they intend to reverse the proposed cuts and utilise the revenue elsewhere.

What is the substantive message...vote labour if you want to live in a police state?

ukcarper

michaels wrote: »

Funnily enough ending unskilled immigration from lower paid countries will improve the chances for the low paid. Remember when Carney thought unemployment of 7% might lead to wage driven inflation but was wrong because actually there were atill another 20m unemployed europeans holding down uk wages.

It might we will have to wait and see not convince though.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The EU is setting the tone......... How many toys are going to get thrown out of the pram. Judging by early comments a considerable amount. Suspect the UK's monetary contribution is going to be sorely missed.

I am sure you are right on the money. It remains to be seen what happens if the UK really is taking the negative approach portrayed in the press (not sure that this is true in practice). We might win this battle but if so at what cost to a good relationship with the EU? Will these EU leaders respect us afterwards? Or will they really did their heels in and make us suffer the consequences of our actions? Or is this all public posturing while both sides face up to the consequences and quietly produce a face saving compromise?