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  • fun4everyone
    fun4everyone Posts: 2,369 Forumite
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    Honestly what is she playing at, Corbyn may have done poorly on Woman's Hour but at least he went.

    May seems desperate to avoid any scrutiny.

    What is the source of that quote?
  • kabayiri
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    Such a huge question that I do not know the answer to.

    Certainly, I believe from what I have seen that there are lots of efficiency opportunities to be explored.

    I think also, there needs to be a tough review / stance / communication as to what the NHS covers.
    Society has changed so much since the implementation of the NHS and maybe there needs to be a consideration of what is covered

    The more ambitious you are on change, the higher your chances of failure.

    It's that simple.

    Remember Labour's ambitious NHS IT project?

    18 months in, and it was 2 years behind !

    These parties should all stop playing silly boogars and instead work out long range plans for things like education and NHS. It's time they stopped being political footballs.
  • Filo25
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    What is the source of that quote?

    Twitter from one of the telegraph journalists I think
  • kabayiri
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    Moby wrote: »
    New Poll in the Evening Standard re. London voting intentions:- The current standing of the parties reflects how London voted in 1997 when Tony Blair won his landslide first victory, according to the YouGov poll of 1,000 Londoners produced for Queen Mary University of London. Labour is on 50 per cent, up from 41 per cent a month ago. The Tories are on 33 per cent, down from 36 in a month. In March the parties were just three points apart, at 37/34. Asked who would make the best Prime Minister, 37 per cent picked Mr Corbyn and 34 per cent Mrs May. A survey taken just after the manifesto launches last month had Mrs May ahead by 38 to 32.

    Labour will win or lose this election outside London.

    A lot of their traditional supporters deserted them in places like the NE in the 2015 GE.

    If these are the same people who supported Brexit, then why would they return to Corbyn? You just know that he is going to put migrants ahead of your local needs.
  • setmefree2
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    I didn't realise Amber Rudd's father had passed away on Monday until now.

    What a strong lady. AA Gill was her ex and the father of her kids - he only died December. Tough times.
  • fun4everyone
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    Twitter from one of the telegraph journalists I think

    Thanks, found it

    https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/870310676501278720

    Weak and Wobbly.
  • BobQ
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    Conrad wrote: »
    I signed up to Yougov to participate in polls. I gave careful answers that all implied I was just a middle of the road non too interested voter, merely signed up to collect points for the Yougov cash prize draw.


    Pollsters are more interested in swing voters and non political anoraks that did vote last time.


    I did this to support the Labour voting intention numbers as I want to motivate Tories to get the vote out.


    I wonder how many others did so.............


    I did this the other way.What does that prove?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • setmefree2
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    edited 1 June 2017 at 5:51PM
    kabayiri wrote: »
    Labour will win or lose this election outside London.

    I don't know. A lot of the 5% live in LDN. As do the 1%.

    Do Turkeys really vote for Xmas?

    Maybe they do! Liberal Elites vote labour - working class vote Tory - you couldn't make it up.
  • Thrugelmir
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    BobQ wrote: »
    I did this the other way.What does that prove?

    All that matters is the vote on the day.

    Without polls the media would have nothing to fill their election coverage airtime with.
  • westernpromise
    westernpromise Posts: 4,833 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    You're right, it's a certainty we'd all be harmed by his economic blizzard. I'd love to believe in his fairy tale simplistic warm words, but unfortunately I have an active intellect that keeps getting in the way

    What we know about Corbyn is that if you threaten him with bombs and bullets, he appeases you. He campaigns to disband the security services while sharing a platform with you. Black September hijacker Leela Khalid hijacked planes and Corbyn happily shared a platform with her.

    The idea that capitulating to anyone who threatens you would make us safer is laughable. Terrorists the world over would know that if you plant a few bombs in London, Corbyn will side with you, blame the victims, and give you anything you want that's in his gift. The comparison with Russia's attitude to plane hijackers is instructive: Russia doesn't negotiate with you, they just storm the plane and you die. As a result, nobody hijacks their planes.

    We would become an instant target for every nutjob who wanted an easy target.
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