UKPC parking charge

Cloggie

I've received a UKPC parking charge on my windscreen in a free car park for leaving the site which I did briefly but not untill I'd made my purchases in one of the retail parks shops. I'm currently hiring the vehicle and despite reading through the threads am still confused at when and how to begin the appeal process. Any advice would be much appreciated

fisherjim

You should read the newbies thread at the top of the forum to get the gist of what this is all about.

The next most important thing is to deflect the scammers mail rubbish away from the hire company who may pay the charge and add on a fat admin charge. You should contact them and tell them this is not a fine just an unsolicited invoice and they should name you as the keeper (not the driver) at the time of the incident.

The_Slithy_Tove

As per the NEWBIES thread, it is important to appeal the Notice to Driver (but only do so as the "keeper") before they get the registered keeper details from the DVLA, as that will engage you with a battle over unreasonable fees the hire company will slap on.

Stick with the standard text for now. POPLA is where you will beat UKPC.

"Leaving site" cases are very hard for the PPC to justify, and none has been near a court since VCS (or their legal rep) nearly got banged up for contempt when they tried it on (check out VCS v Ibbotson).

DoaM

As above, appeal the windscreen ticket about 3 weeks after the date on the PCN. (Around day 26 if appealing online, day 24 if appealing by post). Appeal as the keeper (which you were - you were the keeper of the vehicle on the day) using the standard template text from the NEWBIES thread.

Once UKPC get an appeal they'll latch onto it and most likely won't even think about obtaining registered keeper details from DVLA. That way the hire company will be out of the loop and won't be able to pay this on your behalf (and charge you for the privilege).

waamo

Are you in Scotland by any chance? As above read the Newbies thread at the top of this sub forum. It answers your questions.

DoaM

What makes you think OP may be in Scotland? (To me Cloggie suggests Dutch).

waamo

DoaM wrote: »

What makes you think OP may be in Scotland? (To me Cloggie suggests Dutch).

Nothing makes me suspect they are I was merely asking as it's amazing how many people seem to leave out such an important piece of information.

The_Slithy_Tove

waamo wrote: »

Are you in Scotland by any chance?

Even if it's Scotland, it's important to engage with UKPC in order to keep the hire company out of the loop.

The_Deep

Leaving site hardly ever gets to court as the PPC have to prove that they did everything in their power to mitigate their losses by preventing it. It might also be argued that it is an unfair term, or even that it was allowed in the original planning permissions.

In any case, UKPC have form, read this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

pogofish

DoaM wrote: »

What makes you think OP may be in Scotland? (To me Cloggie suggests Dutch).

Cloggie is also a word in Scots/Doric (East coast lingo).

Although in my spik, it has nothing to do with clogs!

OP's possible location was my first thought on seeing the username.

Cloggie

Thanks for your advice but I'm still confused at which NEWBIES template to usen and at what day to send it. If i let the hirer know he will only pass on my details to UKPC anyway so I'm i best to just use the keeper template on day 25/26?
And no i am not in Scotland it's very much a Dutch reference but sadly I'm not in Holland either