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Housing Association not managing its residents and impact on private owners/residents
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... or in the hope that someone would actually share his/her experience in dealing with similar issues and taking legal action, as opposed to just speculation.
Yes, private residents have no direct control over HA residents. However, HA residents do sign a tenancy agreement, which I have copy of, and a few don't respect the terms, at the expense of other residents (social or private). If they landlord doesn't enforce terms of the tenancy agreements, nor terms of the master lease for the estate, then I am sure there is legal ground for action.
Yes, I have no doubts that a legal action will take time and money, although starting one might be sufficient to trigger some actions, as opposed to going all the way to court.
There is no grounds for legal action as the issue is between the tenants and the LL. If the LL don't want to enforce the conditions of the tenancy agreement, then that is between then.
It is not illegal to live in squalor. The fact nothing has been done for the past 3 years is testament to that.
What do you hope posting here 3 years on?"It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"
G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP0 -
Why would I need to get paid for legal advice?
Why are you inferring that I am blaming some HA residents for creating trouble, without proof?
Let me guess: I am the evil private landlord (who has never worked and just inherited his money) that is blaming automatically social tenants for all troubles...
What are you blithering on about? You need paid for legal advice as you have for many years relied on strangers on the internet, with predictable results.
I have only rudimentary legal training, but as you are not a party to the tenancy agreement I don't see grounds by which you can enforce it. If you try to start litigation I imagine both HA and tenants would throw it in the bin. Actually, no, the worst tenants would probably amplify whatever is !!!!ing you off.
The most practical advice, which you clearly don't want to hear, was given to you in your original thread years ago - you will only resolve this by moving somewhere without this issue.0 -
Victor_the_Gink wrote: »What are you blithering on about? You need paid for legal advice as you have for many years relied on strangers on the internet, with predictable results.
I have only rudimentary legal training, but as you are not a party to the tenancy agreement I don't see grounds by which you can enforce it. If you try to start litigation I imagine both HA and tenants would throw it in the bin. Actually, no, the worst tenants would probably amplify whatever is !!!!ing you off.
The most practical advice, which you clearly don't want to hear, was given to you in your original thread years ago - you will only resolve this by moving somewhere without this issue.
Life is about choices and it is the OP's choice to stay put but still moan about their position"It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"
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Why would I need to get paid for legal advice? I think I know what you meant, but since we are being very pedantic...
Why are you inferring that I am blaming some HA residents for creating trouble, without proof?
Let me guess: I am the evil private landlord (who has never worked and just inherited his money) that is blaming automatically social tenants for all troubles...
Here are some stats for your own information:
* 90% of all estate troubles are coming from 1 block of flat (belonging to a HA)
* 90% of Police calls/visits are related to that block
* 90% of people living in that block are creating no issues whatsoever, and are in favour of an action against their useless landlord. They are also more upset that private residents, due to their proximity with the troublemakers and the fact that they probably can't relocate elsewhere easily
Why should you get paid for legal advice? Because you want to know if you have a legal case and if you want legal advice you'll need to stick your hand in your pocket. All you'll get on the forum are opinions even if some of those opinions will come from legal professionals it will still be opinion and not advice. You didn't like the forum opinions 3 years ago so why did you expect a different response?
The reason I asked if you had included all residents was because there is strength in numbers. You think sharing an estate with the trouble makers is bad, try sharing a building with them.
Unless you can provide a reference(s) for your numbers I'll take them with a pinch of salt.0 -
Why would I need to get paid for legal advice? I think I know what you meant, but since we are being very pedantic...
Why are you inferring that I am blaming some HA residents for creating trouble, without proof?
Let me guess: I am the evil private landlord (who has never worked and just inherited his money) that is blaming automatically social tenants for all troubles...
Pixie left a hyphen out of 'paid-for. It's a typo.
She'd not inferred that you had no proof of anything, just that your knowledge of the law suggests you need clear advice about the chances of success from a qualified professional.
It's you who's started speculating wildly.
Now read on....0 -
Victor_the_Gink wrote: »The most practical advice, which you clearly don't want to hear, was given to you in your original thread years ago - you will only resolve this by moving somewhere without this issue.
Well, that's indeed correct. Having read the original thread, the common "advice" given was to move elsewhere. As a matter of principles, I and others are not going to move out because 3 or 4 of families are creating trouble, in an estate probably having more than 600 residents in total.
Yes, moving out would be the simplest option (although without guarantee of not having similar issues elsewhere), but it's not relevant to the questions I am asking.
If that's the only advice you can provide, please feel free to stop posting it!
"I have some issues with my car": get a new car! (you will be lucky next time)
"I have some issues with my employer": go work elsewhere! (don't try to get it resolved)
"My bank made a mistake": get another bank! (don't try to correct the mistake)0 -
All you'll get on the forum are opinions even if some of those opinions will come from legal professionals it will still be opinion and not advice. You didn't like the forum opinions 3 years ago so why did you expect a different response?
You can also get people sharing their own experience, no? Surely, private owners in the UK having issues with an unresponsive HA is not a unique scenario. Some people must have had to take legal action, and could share their stories.
It's not just me who is considering legal action: I have a large number of private owners who have had enough, and a large number of HA residents who also had enough of their landlord.The reason I asked if you had included all residents was because there is strength in numbers. You think sharing an estate with the trouble makers is bad, try sharing a building with them.
I completely agree that it's much worse for HA residents who have no options but to share a building with those troublemakers, and I am more than happy to assist those people too if I can.0 -
You can also get people sharing their own experience, no? Surely, private owners in the UK having issues with an unresponsive HA is not a unique scenario. Some people must have had to take legal action, and could share their stories.
It's not just me who is considering legal action: I have a large number of private owners who have had enough, and a large number of HA residents who also had enough of their landlord.
I completely agree that it's much worse for HA residents who have no options but to share a building with those troublemakers, and I am more than happy to assist those people too if I can.
So to move forward, actually put where you money where your mouth is and actually get legal representation if you feel strongly about it.
3 years or 30 years of moaning on here will not change your situation. Do it for real in real life and come back if that made a difference."It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"
G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP0
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