Employer looking overtime?

n1guy

custardy wrote: »

Pay your way in life? Well yes I would expect that.
I dont have the answers for making a support network that still encourages work.
Is it my fault you are in a job that has low pay?

I didn't say it was your fault. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as we're not going to see eye to eye.

custardy

n1guy wrote: »

I didn't say it was your fault. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as we're not going to see eye to eye.

On that I would agree with you.

boliston

custardy wrote: »

Evidently it isnt, as you cant pay your living costs from your wages.

A lot of people who work are subsidised by the taxpayer - perhaps all education should be self funded rather than state funded?
Should people who need operations pay for them themselves - they are working after all?

custardy

boliston wrote: »

A lot of people who work are subsidised by the taxpayer - perhaps all education should be self funded rather than state funded?
Should people who need operations pay for them themselves - they are working after all?

You think I arrived today?
I'm all too aware.
As I said I don't have the answers,however what we have now isnt it.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

custardy wrote: »

You think I arrived today?
I'm all too aware.
As I said I don't have the answers,however what we have now isnt it.

And yet you blame the person who is a victim of the system and tell them to "work harder".

custardy

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

And yet you blame the person who is a victim of the system and tell them to "work harder".

Feel free to quote the post(s) in context.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

custardy wrote: »

Feel free to quote the post(s) in context.

Well, maybe you didn't say that exactly, but you took issue with the OP defending himself against people who did.

custardy

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Well, maybe you didn't say that exactly, but you took issue with the OP defending himself against people who did.

Nope,try again. Feel free to quote the posts.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

custardy wrote: »

Evidently it isnt, as you cant pay your living costs from your wages.

That'll be the one there. Which was in answer to him saying he shouldn't have to work overtime.

Do you deny that that implies he ought to work more than 40 hours if he is claiming top-up benefits?

hyubh

n1guy wrote: »

I didn't say it was your fault. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as we're not going to see eye to eye.

I think you need to get out of a rut.

Personally, I have zero sympathy for small business people who complain about the minimum wage, or pensions auto-enrolement, etc. - if a small business can only offer poverty wages, then I'm all for large corporations and government regulation driving them to the wall.

That said... for an actual employee in that sort of business, I'm not sure internalising such views is very helpful. Why are your ambitions so low that you can't see yourself escaping the need for state handouts? Where's your self-respect? Having self-respect doesn't mean accepting the need for doing overtime in a dead-end job... but it probably does entail striving for something else, whether another employer or setting off on your own.