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Help urgently needed

Hi


I unfortunately lost my grandma 2 weeks ago and my mum has been dealing with her affairs. As per my grans request we are having the wake at the nursing home she had been resident in. At the home they have an internal banking system where each resident has a 'pot' of money they can use at anytime. Well today my mum has had an invoice for the costs of the wake but it appears that they have taken full payment from what was my grans 'pot'. Are they allowed to do this??? :(


My mums panicking as that money was to help with the funeral costs. I'd really appreciate any advice.
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  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Was cost and payment not discussed at the time of arranging it?

    If you owe them that money but need grans money for funeral costs, how were you intending to pay for the wake?
  • sazzyc10
    sazzyc10 Posts: 14 Forumite
    No not as far as I know the costs and payments weren't discussed. I was under the impression that no one except my mum (whos executor of the will) could just take money. I thought it had to be divided in a certain way.
    Also have u ever heard of the deceased paying for the wake?


    Its sounds and feels dodgy.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    sazzyc10 wrote: »
    Also have u ever heard of the deceased paying for the wake?

    The cost of my parents' wakes came out of their estates. It's quite normal for the wake to be paid for from the money left by the deceased.
  • Auntie-Dolly
    Auntie-Dolly Posts: 1,008 Forumite
    But even if they had given the pot to your Mum she would have had to pay for the wake so what is the difference?
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    sazzyc10 wrote: »
    No not as far as I know the costs and payments weren't discussed. I was under the impression that no one except my mum (whos executor of the will) could just take money. I thought it had to be divided in a certain way.
    Also have u ever heard of the deceased paying for the wake?


    Its sounds and feels dodgy.

    Well someone has to pay for it.

    The way you're taking you seem to expect the home to pay for it? No. The people who arranged it pay. You arranged it. A wake is usually lumped in with the cost of the funeral, and yes, it's very often taken from the deceased or paid for by family.

    If you didn't have the money to pay for it, you shouldn't have asked them to host it. There's absolutely nothing dodgy going on except someone expecting to be paid for a service
  • sazzyc10
    sazzyc10 Posts: 14 Forumite
    The difference is that my mum would pay it. At this point they have just taken the money without asking or permission. Does this not break probate law? From my little knowledge I thought that all monies and possessions were to be given to my mum who would then distribute to creditors and funeral expenses
  • The_Logans
    The_Logans Posts: 247 Forumite
    I'm sorry for your loss. I'm afraid the deceased's family or estate paying for the wake is normal. It's not free
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    sazzyc10 wrote: »
    The difference is that my mum would pay it. At this point they have just taken the money without asking or permission. Does this not break probate law? From my little knowledge I thought that all monies and possessions were to be given to my mum who would then distribute to creditors and funeral expenses

    Funeral expenses have priority and this would be considered one.

    In the grand scheme of things, if your mum would pay anyway, what actual difference is it making?
  • sazzyc10
    sazzyc10 Posts: 14 Forumite
    Also why bother to invoice my mum if they were just going to take it out of her account? We have no problem with paying the amount and I really don't like the tone. All i'm asking is is this legal?
  • sazzyc10
    sazzyc10 Posts: 14 Forumite
    I don't think any of you understand that they have taken money without permission. All funeral expenses will be paid and we didn't expect the wake to be free. We are quite happy to pay for it but when and how is up to my mum not the home
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