Need help- suspension and displinary

London50

Tmckinnin56 wrote: »

Any advice
Am not going I can't be forced to go

If you are not going and cannot be forced to go then on that you need no advise but I would say that perhaps in the future you will learn to steer clear of You tube and any other internet medium with regards to ANY other company you get a job with. That way you MAY manage to keep a job for more than two months.

Ozzuk

If you just don't turn up then there is no guarantee this will all just go away. They can carry on with their investigation and find against you anyway. Do you need a reference from them? It could easily say you resigned under investigation. It may be better to face the music, apologise profusely (if you did it), and try and negotiate you just leaving with no bad reference.

Given you've worked there for such a short time you may get away with just not declaring the role on your cv, but that is up to you.

Guest101

Tmckinnin56 wrote: »

I worked there since February but am or can I be forced to attend and am scared straight as I don't know what will happen if I don't attend as ultimate I want to be let go or have my contract terminated

They said failure to attend will result in dispensary action and includes and up to dismissal and a, scared if I do t show up so please help me

I don't understand you're willing to resign, so what does it matter if they dismiss you?


(The reference wont be good in either case)

Malthusian

Guest101 wrote: »

I don't understand you're willing to resign, so what does it matter if they dismiss you?

(The reference wont be good in either case)

The OP is not in a good state of mental health and turning up, explaining his actions and apologising profusely may increase the chance that a sympathetic employer gives a neutral reference.

The OP's first priority however is his health, if attending the disciplinary will make it worse than he shouldn't.

OP, the first thing you need to do is sort out your mental health as if you are prone to anxiety and panic attacks and have a tendency to do irrational things like openly criticising your employer on the Internet, it's unlikely that you'll hold down any job for long. So whether you resign or are sacked or get a good reference is of little importance. If you don't know where to get help then call your GP. The NHS isn't perfect but it's a good start and it's there.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

nicechap wrote: »

What's your union rep said?

I so wish people would stop doing this. You don't really expect everyone you ask it of to have a union rep, do you.

I agree people should join unions, but the fact is of course that most don't. So phrasing the question like this just so when they answer "I don't have a union rep" you can say "Ah, you should have!" really doesn't do anyone any good.

Just ask "Have you got a union rep?" You can still tell them they ought to have one, if you like. But asking the question in this way is pointless and not even original.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Tmckinnin56 wrote: »

Ultimately am scared to death as I have already explained myself at the investigation hearing on Monday and me repeating g myself tomorrow at the heating will make myself worse

I have writen and emailed my boss but no response

I don't know what to do but I do know I do not want to attend and have emailed my employer I resigned but it's stone silence

I want to be dismissed will that happen if I don't show up and will this nightmare be dropped once and for all

I do t have s tone rep or colleague or friends or parents etc am on my own

Has anyone else had past experiences of this and anyone else not show up

What happens if u do t show up as I want to be dismissed and have it the who,e thing dropped

Any advice
Am not going I can't be forced to go

What are you scared of?

The very worst they can do is sack you, which is apparently what you want to happen anyway. What do you think will happen if you go to the hearing that will be worse than being sacked?

TBagpuss

OP, they cannot force you to attend, however, they are not holding the meeting to try to 'torture' you or to catch you out. They are following a normal, standard procedure.

If you really cannot face going then I suggest that you write a letter (not email) saying that for health reasons you can't attend, that you accept that you have made youtube videos but that you have not made any which name or identify the company or bring it into disrepute and that it was not your intention to make derogatory comments about anyone and no not believe that you have done so (assuming all that is true)

in terms of resignation, you have resigned. They can't not accept that.

They can refuse to accept you quitting with immediate effect, ad say they want you to serve your notice period (which is one week or whatever it says in your contract, whichever is higher) but in practice if you simply stop turning up then the most likely outcome is that they will simply not pay you for those days.

Resigning may affect you in that it may mean you are sanctioned when you try to apply for JSA, and obviously the company is entitled to continue with their disciplinary process whether you turn up or not, so you may still get a letter telling you formally about the outcome.
They would be able to truthfully state in any reference that you resigned while under investigation or that disciplinary actin was taken against you.

Is your employer aware of your mental health issues? Is it possible that they have not responded to your resignation because they are expecting you to come to the meeting on Monday and may be thinking of an outcome other than sacking, and don't want to accept your resignation until they have had the chance to speak to you, and possibly to allow you to retract it?

It is also possible that the issue is simply not as important to them as to you and that responding to your e-mail is not a high priority for the person you have sent it to.

If you have not already done so,it may be sensible for you to see your GP as your reaction does seem quite extreme, for something like this. It may be helpful to review whether they can offer you additional support or whether they need to adjust any medication you are currently taking, and while I am not an expert, evidence that there were medical reasons for you resigning may help you if you do have to apply fr benefits or if you need, at a later date, to explain how the job ended.

Tmckinnin56

Update:-

Today I dint attend the meeting I mean this isn't the worse thing to do I mean all I did they claim I did was made a passing comment on social media and who,e thing is blown out of context
It's not looks I leaked company information or I physically abused someone or called someone by name or punched/kicked someone
I mean look at ken Livingston he attended a displinary hearing as he brought the Labour Party into disrepute over nazi sementism etc and he got suspended
What I did is minor thing that is shouldn't be going through
Like I worked for a bank and I was on The phone and I processed a customer credit card information but the details were not matching up and later agency ended my contract
So why thus employernot doing the same thing
Like I said I have not slep or ate anything since Monday and now I want this thing drooped I phoned and spoke to Samaritan and breathing space as well as agas and citizens advuce and all said that I have emailed I resign and think that we'll end it
I just hope they just drop it and this whole thing is just to scare me into not doing it again

Mr.Generous

If you cause an employer enough grief to hold an investigation then disciplinary meeting after 2 months service for something you did chances are you will be finished up. It might not be gross misconduct however, so attending the meeting could have given you a chance to admit it, say sorry, express loads of regret and leave on better terms. Chances are someone from HR will be involved closely with the process, chances are someone from HR will produce your reference and deal with any job centre enquiries re your leaving. Always best to stay on reasonable terms.

sangie595

Tmckinnin56 wrote: »

Update:-

Today I dint attend the meeting I mean this isn't the worse thing to do I mean all I did they claim I did was made a passing comment on social media and who,e thing is blown out of context
It's not looks I leaked company information or I physically abused someone or called someone by name or punched/kicked someone
I mean look at ken Livingston he attended a displinary hearing as he brought the Labour Party into disrepute over nazi sementism etc and he got suspended
What I did is minor thing that is shouldn't be going through
Like I worked for a bank and I was on The phone and I processed a customer credit card information but the details were not matching up and later agency ended my contract
So why thus employernot doing the same thing
Like I said I have not slep or ate anything since Monday and now I want this thing drooped I phoned and spoke to Samaritan and breathing space as well as agas and citizens advuce and all said that I have emailed I resign and think that we'll end it
I just hope they just drop it and this whole thing is just to scare me into not doing it again

I am sorry if you don't understand this, but it is very simple. You do not ever talk about your employer on social media. Full stop. You criticised your employer because you got into trouble at work. When you get into trouble at work, you stick your head down and don't come to their attention again. Not post it all over social media.

I may be misunderstanding this, but you appear to be saying that this is not the first time you've been dismissed. Maybe you need to reconsider your approach to work? Employers have disciplinary procedures. Complaining that you don't want to attend them because you get distressed, and it would be better if they just finished you, is not the way to go. Not getting into trouble in the first place is the way to go.