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Lioness_Twinkletoes

Muscle750 wrote: »

I see the unions have said that the 1% pay increase to public sector workers is a disgrace and left many feeling took for granted. Ive worked for the same company 30 years and last pay rise we had was 10 years ago final salary pension ripped from under our feet at the same time and a miserly 5% paid by the employer into our present pension scheme. Plus we got to work till were ready to drop not take a nice pension at 55 and as ive said before many having more income from their public sector pensions than if they continued working whilst us idiots continue paying for them So tell me all those bleating on their 1% pay increase would you like to join us in the private sector ?..................As i thought so carry on looking forward to a nice pot at 55 to enjoy life with..................we cant

Bitter, much? The 1% has been in place for years - five I think. Regardless of what is happening in the private sector, the public sector should also be paid a decent salary, with increases that vaguely help with the increased cost of living.

There are massive changes to most local authorities, with redundancies and huge swathes of cuts across the board. There are few employees that can retire at 55! Most are simply clinging desperately on, trying to do thankless jobs with fewer staff than ever - and are getting criticised to boot.

It's not easy being an LA employee.

FBaby

I thought the public sector was increasingly experiencing vacancy rate problems. Surely if being a public sector worker was so wonderful, they would never been vacancy issues, people would be begging for the jobs, yet it is so bad that reliance on contractor is as a all time high.

Maybe the benefits you get are not worth the job. Listening to my teacher, police, nhs worker friends, they all have one thing in common, they hate their job because they hate the politics and the constant change that comes with the job.

milliemonster

I've worked in both, as a nurse in the public sector and in industry (not as a nurse) private sector was easier, less stressful, better pay, good pension, better perks, same leave and benefits, although I also had better benefits in the private sector, I was recognised for my qualifications and had lots of options for progression and training, NHS? I can't retire til I'm 68 (I'm 44 now), I don't have the option of taking a break at work as it's too busy, 12 hour days on your feet where you're frowned upon if you even sit down take their toll, my back is wrecked now at 44 so much that a consultant neurologist told me I should give up nursing now, how am I supposed to continue doing this for another 24 years? I have no employment perks in the nhs, I have worked almost every christmas since I qualified, and do not have the opportunity to do anything regular in an evening as we have to cover a 24/7 service

private sector was a doddle, working in the NHS is about as stressful as it gets and the pay and 'perks' don't make up for it at all.

Wayne_O_Mac

Muscle750 wrote: »

because one day when you breakdown on the motorway or disappear throu the hedge sideways or worse it may well be me at 2 am or any other time to cart your car away and you and your family back home

If your level of commitment to accuracy is the same in your job as in your posts here, I think I would choose to remain at the roadside.

Muscle750

one point to add to waste of money in the public sector finances is that at GCHQ they get paid £5 a day not to take their car to work, so they all park round the side streets and claim their £25 a week and most car share the last few hundred yards so one will take a hit that day. Plus so many took the preverbial on the expenses going first class to London on the train they now got their own coaches plus they wasted hundreds of thousands on developing a sleeve to put your mobile in that couldnt be used when in the sleeve yet.................it didnt work more money wasted

sangie595

FBaby wrote: »

I thought the public sector was increasingly experiencing vacancy rate problems. Surely if being a public sector worker was so wonderful, they would never been vacancy issues, people would be begging for the jobs, yet it is so bad that reliance on contractor is as a all time high.

Maybe the benefits you get are not worth the job. Listening to my teacher, police, nhs worker friends, they all have one thing in common, they hate their job because they hate the politics and the constant change that comes with the job.

Certainly in local government there are massive vacancy rates in social care. Why would anyone want to get paid poor salaries for long hours, impossible case loads, and the opportunity to be held to blame for some parent killing their child because you didn't have enough time to visit all your cases? Of course you won't always be blamed for the actions of an abusive parent. The rest of the time you will be held responsible because you do remove the child from the parent. You can't win, you are always to blame for whatever you decide, and you get to work for about the same money as some people can earn in the local call centre, where your only problems are have you reached your target; how long until you clock out (on time); and what's for tea. My friend manages the entire of the vulnerable adults team for a major city, and his pay is £38k. He's in work at 7 am and usually not home until 6.30 p.m.. During that nearly 12 hours he will manage the most complex cases of vulnerable adults, with a team of eight staff, which is six staff below the number he should have. If all 14 staff posts were filled each person would have a case load of 40+ active cases - well above the number they are supposed to have to care for people properly. In fact they have many more than that.

But heh, that's an easy life. Making sure that your grandfather with dementia is being adequately cared for and treated with respect whilst he has simultaneously, and through no fault of his own, become so unpredictable and violent that his care home won't keep him and his family can't take him without a risk to him and to the family is nothing compared to hauling a car out of a hedge. Is it?

sangie595

Muscle750 wrote: »

one point to add to waste of money in the public sector finances is that at GCHQ they get paid £5 a day not to take their car to work, so they all park round the side streets and claim their £25 a week and most car share the last few hundred yards so one will take a hit that day. Plus so many took the preverbial on the expenses going first class to London on the train they now got their own coaches plus they wasted hundreds of thousands on developing a sleeve to put your mobile in that couldnt be used when in the sleeve yet.................it didnt work more money wasted

What a load of rubbish. It isn't the GCHQ staff - it is PRIVATE SECTOR contractors! http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/hester-s-parking-places-gchq-workers/story-11862629-detail/story.html

You are either trolling or related to Donald Trump.

Gavin83

Muscle750 wrote: »

one point to add to waste of money in the public sector finances is that at GCHQ they get paid £5 a day not to take their car to work, so they all park round the side streets and claim their £25 a week and most car share the last few hundred yards so one will take a hit that day. Plus so many took the preverbial on the expenses going first class to London on the train they now got their own coaches plus they wasted hundreds of thousands on developing a sleeve to put your mobile in that couldnt be used when in the sleeve yet.................it didnt work more money wasted

Don't wish to address any of the points raised then? Are you just trolling?

Cheeseface

Conversely I paid £8 a day to park in the hospital car park as a new wing was built on the staff car park. The new staff car park was much smaller so permits were only given to consultants.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Gavin83 wrote: »

Don't wish to address any of the points raised then? Are you just trolling?

It's just the way that...certain people....argue. You just throw out a stream of unfounded allegations until you find one that people don't have the data to immediately counter. Then, despite your previous 25 allegations having been proven to be false, you say "Aha!" and sit back feeling smug on the basis of the one unproven one. Then, when someone takes the trouble to go off and find the data to show that to be false, you just throw out another that you saw on Fox News yesterday.