ESA entitlement to Severe disability premium question

skylineboy2002

update on this, i phoned up and asked for IS10 form to be sent, and indeed i even had a copy i found online and would have printed myself to speed up the process.

but they told me they now do the form over the phone and i answered that way.

they took a while getting back to me, told me it'd be 3-5 working days as its merely an add on component to existing claim, but they never and i phoned up and was apologised to and given a 24 hour call back as priority, and was told a payment of roughly 10 weeks would be due to me which is the time my PIP was instated, and is one of the conditions of eligible "qualifying other benefit" i think.

so all is well! but i had thought that as my DLA was moved to PIP, and my circumstances on the other conditions of qualifying were the same since september, that i may have gotten it backdated from then, eg DLA was the qualifying other benefit and now its PIP, and ive recieved both, and phased into PIP.

or do they only assess on PIP, or the most recent criteria?

thanks

pmlindyloo

skylineboy2002 wrote: »

update on this, i phoned up and asked for IS10 form to be sent, and indeed i even had a copy i found online and would have printed myself to speed up the process.

but they told me they now do the form over the phone and i answered that way.

they took a while getting back to me, told me it'd be 3-5 working days as its merely an add on component to existing claim, but they never and i phoned up and was apologised to and given a 24 hour call back as priority, and was told a payment of roughly 10 weeks would be due to me which is the time my PIP was instated, and is one of the conditions of eligible "qualifying other benefit" i think.

so all is well! but i had thought that as my DLA was moved to PIP, and my circumstances on the other conditions of qualifying were the same since september, that i may have gotten it backdated from then, eg DLA was the qualifying other benefit and now its PIP, and ive recieved both, and phased into PIP.

or do they only assess on PIP, or the most recent criteria?

thanks

It is possible for the SDP to be backdated to when you qualified - September you say - but it may depend on whether you notified the DWP of a change of circumstances at the time. In other words when you moved into your friend's house did you notify the DWP of the new circumstances, explained your arrangements etc and enquired about the SDP?

pmlindyloo

Just had a thought.. (had a peek at your profile and saw that you are under 35)

Do you claim Housing Benefit?

If you do, have a look at the award letter and see if they have used the SDP in their calculation.

If you are under 35 then you would usually only be allowed the shared accommodation rate of the local housing allowance but if you are entitled to the SDP then you would be eligible for the one bed rate.

Which rate have they used since September when you moved in with your friend?

IGNORE THIS!

Didn't read the profile properly - doesn't apply!

skylineboy2002

yep, ive been recieving DLA since my 10th birthday, and moved in first week of sept 16, told them this as close to that time as i could, a few days after. and in mean time was phased into PIP, enquired about SDP, recently, but both the ESA and DLA were told of me moving in september, i remember because i spent a long time on hold both times, as had to phone the two different depts seperately! lol.

do you think i'd be eligible, for a further back, ermm backdating? given this?

pmlindyloo wrote: »

It is possible for the SDP to be backdated to when you qualified - September you say - but it may depend on whether you notified the DWP of a change of circumstances at the time. In other words when you moved into your friend's house did you notify the DWP of the new circumstances, explained your arrangements etc and enquired about the SDP?

TELLIT01

skylineboy2002 wrote: »

yep, ive been recieving DLA since my 10th birthday, and moved in first week of sept 16, told them this as close to that time as i could, a few days after. and in mean time was phased into PIP, enquired about SDP, recently, but both the ESA and DLA were told of me moving in september, i remember because i spent a long time on hold both times, as had to phone the two different depts seperately! lol.

do you think i'd be eligible, for a further back, ermm backdating? given this?

Potentially, yes. You need to give ESA a call in the first instance to query the date to which it has been backdated. A form should have been sent to you when you moved, and if it wasn't there were definitely be grounds to request backdating to September.

skylineboy2002

UPDATE: phoned esa week or so ago, they gave me a call back and they are looking into it with reagrds to a further backdating, as they also believe that i should be entitled to it under DLA before my PIP. and a decision maker would look at this.

told me to leave it till end of month and then if havent heard nothing by then to call back up.

skylineboy2002

i have phoned them and they told me that they would look at it and didnt (in the time frame they told me) so phoned back etc and the latest is, they said they sending me an IS10 form to be completed about my previous address. i recieved this yesterday but im confused. as...

they dated backdating to my pip a couple of months ago, but i was asking for them to go back further, as i have been eligeible from september last year, when i moved.

why do they need this, i phoned in sept and told i moved etc and the situation i mention in my first post above.. and i wouldnt have been eligeble for the SDP before sept as i lived at home with my mother.

so what relevance does that have? as im not asking for them to consider it before september, so why do they need to know? and the form itself doesnt lend itself well to filling out for when i lived with mum, as the questions dont seem to apply, as she wasnt a landlord or anything and my mum! and they are asking also for a tenancy agreement between me and the person i live with now, aka my live in landlord. which i have and can also prove ive paid him through bank every month since sept (when i moved). im really worried as, this is big big help to me, and also i have provided teneacy agreement to local council and they seem fine with my living arrangements and are happily paying housing benefit so why are dwp disputing it! the woman on phone said that they may stop SDP. im really worried, and i cant understand why, as seems they only looked into it and asking more questions after they been paying me for around 6-8 weeks and only coz i have asked for further backdating, as i think im ok for backdating from date i moved in here, and seem to satisfy all the criteria i can find online, aka, no one claiming carers and not live with relative etc.



also the letter is handwritten address and with a handwritten note which seems unusual for dwp, and im really worried that they will want a months worth of payment back and also £600 of backdating from pip claim, and im worried i have upset them by asking for further back to sept as i felt i am entitled to that, given i satisfy the rules, for not living with anyone claiming carers etc and not a relative!

they also said to me on phone that they were under impression that i lived with a relative even though i did my IS10 form over the phone, and they asked and i said i wasnt and given details of that person etc.

anyoen got any advice?

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It seems to be getting complicated, personally I would go and see my MP and ask them to intervene.

skylineboy2002

thats the thing! it shouldnt be.

tbf i have lead a simple life, lived at home, then moved out.

have always had dla (well since my 10th birthday) im now 30, and then was phased over to PIP (and lost out) so heard about SDP and applied and all the criteria seems to be is, live alone (which for purposes of this sdp, i was told im classed as this, as basically just use a bedroom and shared facilities with the live in landlord as such, no relation) they give me it and now seems that now i have asked for my dla to be taken into account from september 16 when moved out of my mums house (which i cant see the relevance as i wouldnt have gotten sdp coz of her being my mum). so why do they want to know about the time when i lived with her, eg, pre september 16. surely they need to know my situ now, as this is the only time ive been eligible for sdp and the only time im asking for it!

pmlindyloo

Fill in the form as well as you can and add an accompanying letter (put your name/address/NI number on this) explaining the situation.

Keep it simple with dates of where you lived and when.

Include copies of a letter from your mum confirming when you lived with her and where, the date you moved out and dates of when you moved into your current place and with whom you now live, a copy of your current tenancy agreement (lodger's agreement?) and copies of your bank accounts showing the rent going to your house mate.

Is there a possibility that you have any financial links with your mum's address? Or are on the Electoral register there? Anything like this might lead them to believe that you are still living with your mum.

Good luck!