MSE News: Pensions Minister: 'no straws to clutch to' for WASPI campaigners

molerat

So Jeremy, what about 1950s men whose pension was pushed back ?

Silvertabby

So Jeremy, what about 1950s men whose pension was pushed back ? Posted by molerat

Good point. Mr S was born in 1953 and only just scrapes in at 65 - so could there are a LOT of men born between 1954 and 1959 who may start kicking off because no-one 'took them by the hand and gently explained that they wouldn't get their State pension at 65'?

Paul_Herring

molerat wrote: »

So Jeremy, what about 1950s men whose pension was pushed back ?

What about them? They're not women, are they??

Silvertabby

“ From Labour's manifesto.

Looks like red Is the new purple.:D


Originally posted by Mortgagefreeman ”
So they "deserve recognition for the injustice they have suffered and some kind of compensation for their losses".

I guess it's easy enough to manage the former:
Yeah, you should have had more notice but that's the Conservatives for you & it's too late to do anything now.
That's recognition.

As for 'some kind of compensation', anyone who believes that they'll get their state pension at 60 (or back payment) based on that tosh is deluded. Posted by pollycat.

Exactly - although the next paragraph does mention extending pension credit to the 1950s women - at least that's a kick up the bum for WASPE, as I doubt any of their 'leading lights' would ever qualify for means tested benefits.

I just hope that some women aren't desperate (or daft) enough to fall for this rubbish and be tempted to vote Labour (or, as it would be, a Communist/Limp Dem/SNP coalition with Comrade Corbyn in No 10).

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bmm78

The statement "women born in the 1950s have had their state pension age changed without fair notification" implies that any woman born on 1st January 1960 onwards has had fair notification of the changes to their state pension age.

The question to Labour therefore is what distinction are they drawing between the notice given to a woman born on 31st December 1959, and one born on 1st January 1960? How is one an "injustice" worthy of recognition and compensation, and the other not even worth mentioning?

While there may be more detail in the published manifesto, what they are proposing is on the surface both nonsensical and discriminatory. Hopefully their costings for the proposal will include money set aside for legal fees and redress when the government is dragged through court.

Pollycat

I really believe that a lot of MPs don't understand this 'issue' about pension age equalisation and how long it's been in the public domain.
During the debate in Parliament (back in Jan 2016?) I heard a lot of tosh from MPs with stories from their constituents that were simply not true.
Whether the constituents lied or the MPs got the wrong end of the stick is not clear.
I'm a late 1953 woman and expected to get my state pension last month (aged 63 and a half) but 2011 put it back to July 2018 (64 and 9 months) so I know if someone born at a similar time says anything different they are either lying or confused.

Pollycat

Silvertabby wrote: »

Exactly - although the next paragraph does mention extending pension credit to the 1950s women - at least that's a kick up the bum for WASPE, as I doubt any of their 'leading lights' would ever qualify for means tested benefits.

I think this has been suggested several times on various WASPI threads as a solution for those women in financial need & many posters in the same position as me (late 1953 woman who does not agree with WASPI) - and I think you too - see it as a fair solution.

Silvertabby

“ Exactly - although the next paragraph does mention extending pension credit to the 1950s women - at least that's a kick up the bum for WASPE, as I doubt any of their 'leading lights' would ever qualify for means tested benefits.
Originally posted by Silvertabby ”
I think this has been suggested several times on various WASPI threads as a solution for those women in financial need & many posters in the same position as me (late 1953 woman who does not agree with WASPI) - and I think you too - see it as a fair solution. Posted by Pollycat

Yes, I absolutely agree that women in their 60s who are suffering because they can't work for family reasons, for example' should be helped. But that isn't enough the the WASPE elite (remember the photo of the two be-sashed ladies on their way to Parliament - first class rail travel and glasses of champers!) who want their 'pin' money from 60.

coyrls

The way I read it is that the proposed "compensation for their losses" is to extend pension credit to 1950s-born women (I don't know what a WASPI woman is), there is nothing else on offer. It doesn't seem a bad "solution" to me.

zagfles

Silvertabby wrote: »

Exactly - although the next paragraph does mention extending pension credit to the 1950s women - at least that's a kick up the bum for WASPE, as I doubt any of their 'leading lights' would ever qualify for means tested benefits.

:rotfl:Yes - even Labour who seem to be promising all kinds of extravagent spending increases, are only offering WAPSE pension credit - something even a lot of us MSE'ers who are are very anti WAPSE are in favour of!