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Roof eaves membrane - is this much overhang normal?
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Just to clarify. We only contracted the firm in for the gutter replacement - as part of that they needed to remove the first couple of rows of tiles but that should have been all. While they were up on the roof we asked them to do a quick re-pointing of the valley - it was in a very poor state before, so it was just a quick patch job and we probably ought to have it sorted properly now - plus re-point some of the ridge tiles and replace a couple of cracked tiles.
So in terms of the job it's only really the gutter installation and the first couple of rows of tiles that I will need to discuss with the contractors. There are bird combs on the front of the house so I'll need to confirm they've definitely not been fitted at the back.
It sounds like the main areas to pick up with the contractor are:
1) the eaves membrane overhang
2) the kicked-up tiles on the first 2-3 rows
3) possible lack of bird combs on one section
4) whether the tiles overhang the lip of the eaves sufficiently
4) some standing water URL="https://i.imgur.com/6iUs9Vh.jpg"]pic[/URL in the gutters (I know it's not always possible to get a perfect fall but not sure if that amount of water is normal, it's about 2cm for a good 1.5m??)
I've not paid anything up front for the work and it's a small family firm who contract in the labour so I'm hopeful there's not too much effort needed to put things right. I appreciate the pointers on where to highlight though, any other opinions very welcome.
Edit: sorry, I know it's hard to give good advice when OP doesn't give the full picture up-front. The house is a 1960s property and we are only the second owners (bought 18 months ago in a probate sale, previous owner bought it off-plan in 1962), so this is the first time we've had a proper chance to get up onto the roof and take a good look. There's a good chance some of the tiles weren't aligned properly to start with, but I would have liked the contractors to point that out and tell me it wouldn't go back 100% beforehand, but that still doesn't resolve the other issues.0 -
"kick" wasn't there, judging by the Valey.0
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Just to clarify. We only contracted the firm in for the gutter replacement -
Edit: sorry, I know it's hard to give good advice when OP doesn't give the full picture up-front. The house is a 1960s property and we are only the second owners (bought 18 months ago in a probate sale, previous owner bought it off-plan in 1962), so this is the first time we've had a proper chance to get up onto the roof and take a good look. There's a good chance some of the tiles weren't aligned properly to start with, but I would have liked the contractors to point that out .
Equally did the builder point the design life of roof tiles is 60 years. Your tiles are at that point and are chipped/cracked/damaged /misalligned. Your felt will be obsolete, and probably your roof ventilation and condensation control. Rather than cosmetically change matters by tarting up the gutters and bodging the valley a long term cost effective answer might have been to renew the roof properly and tackle all issues in one visit.
You know the valley was poor, and you know the ridge is not good - if you get the roof renewed your new felt and eaves detail will be replaced and likewise your valley repairs.
What you have done is a questionable expenditure and questionable logic. It is a course developers follow every day of the week - bodge and scarper comes to mind. However, home owners thinking of the long term need to step back and ponder all this. It all depends on which camp you are in!0 -
You know the valley was poor, and you know the ridge is not good - if you get the roof renewed your new felt and eaves detail will be replaced and likewise your valley repairs.
What you have done is a questionable expenditure and questionable logic. It is a course developers follow every day of the week - bodge and scarper comes to mind. However, home owners thinking of the long term need to step back and ponder all this. It all depends on which camp you are in!
The roof will need doing at some point but we hope to get a few more years out of it. The roof repairs we've had done were to patch some obvious holes while we plan and budget for a full replacement some time in the next couple of years.
I take the point about the double expenditure though. The priority for us was the guttering, as this was leaking in some places and causing damp patches on the walls of the house. We could have re-lined or repaired but we applied the same cost logic and decided on replacement as a better long-term option - we perhaps should have continued that thought onto the wider roof though.0
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