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  • Zahir764 wrote: »
    Housing Association Group is not playing right for me. I am leaving in flat ans I was not aware that I am renting in HAG instead council, I have applied to local Council and I did not sign anything that could rent out as association tenants I was thinking that still is with Council. My contract does not say anything about association housing/flat or rental. What I have find out that should be 50% or 30 % less rental from Council Tenants because the houses/flats can not be sold for them in the future.

    So, my rent was not cheat and had not any discount, flat was dirty with fungus and I had not any discount for remount, my all salary went for monthly rent 750.00 and I have find out that flat can not be sell because the HA is the private owner.

    Question is ..what the hell private institution doing in Council ? Only because they want grab own profit what about the poor people which they this way are cheated ?
    Why Council do not inform people about taken over by association house ?

    Normal people thinks that after 5 years they will be able to buy property but they are in mistake - big surprise.
    If you would like require why this is not included on application or why nobody inform you about this on time ? they will response that nobody is obligated to inform you but after 5 years renting then will kick you !!! from property and do not let you buy. they will inform you about this.

    Do you think it is fair ?

    Yes.

    Social housing, whether rented from housing association or council should stay with housing association or council. There should be no right to buy or right to acquire.

    Until we sort out that there's little point getting worked up about the lack of affordable housing
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Zahir764 wrote: »
    Housing Association Group is not playing right for me. I am leaving in flat ans I was not aware that I am renting in HAG instead council, I have applied to local Council and I did not sign anything that could rent out as association tenants I was thinking that still is with Council. My contract does not say anything about association housing/flat or rental. What I have find out that should be 50% or 30 % less rental from Council Tenants because the houses/flats can not be sold for them in the future.

    So, my rent was not cheat and had not any discount, flat was dirty with fungus and I had not any discount for remount, my all salary went for monthly rent 750.00 and I have find out that flat can not be sell because the HA is the private owner.

    Question is ..what the hell private institution doing in Council ? Only because they want grab own profit what about the poor people which they this way are cheated ?
    Why Council do not inform people about taken over by association house ?

    Normal people thinks that after 5 years they will be able to buy property but they are in mistake - big surprise.
    If you would like require why this is not included on application or why nobody inform you about this on time ? they will response that nobody is obligated to inform you but after 5 years renting then will kick you !!! from property and do not let you buy. they will inform you about this.

    Do you think it is fair ?

    An housing association is not a private owner they are a different kind of social landlord. Some council housing has been transferred to housing associations. It sounds as if your property is on one of these estates. It does not make any difference to people needing social housing whether it is owned by the council or a housing association. People who are in a position to buy a property could afford to do that on the open market.

    I do not know how you could not have known that your council property had been transferred to a housing association. It does not happen in secret.

    If you want to buy somewhere buy something from the open market. If you want to rent you are now living on a housing association estate.
  • Cheeky_Monkey
    Cheeky_Monkey Posts: 2,072 Forumite
    Zahir764 wrote: »
    Housing Association Group is not playing right for me. I am leaving in flat ans I was not aware that I am renting in HAG instead council, I have applied to local Council and I did not sign anything that could rent out as association tenants I was thinking that still is with Council. My contract does not say anything about association housing/flat or rental. What I have find out that should be 50% or 30 % less rental from Council Tenants because the houses/flats can not be sold for them in the future.

    So, my rent was not cheat and had not any discount, flat was dirty with fungus and I had not any discount for remount, my all salary went for monthly rent 750.00 and I have find out that flat can not be sell because the HA is the private owner.

    Question is ..what the hell private institution doing in Council ? Only because they want grab own profit what about the poor people which they this way are cheated ?
    Why Council do not inform people about taken over by association house ?

    Normal people thinks that after 5 years they will be able to buy property but they are in mistake - big surprise.
    If you would like require why this is not included on application or why nobody inform you about this on time ? they will response that nobody is obligated to inform you but after 5 years renting then will kick you !!! from property and do not let you buy. they will inform you about this.

    Do you think it is fair ?
    Could we have this again in English please
  • System
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    Zahir764 wrote: »
    Housing Association Group is not playing right for me. I am leaving in flat ans I was not aware that I am renting in HAG instead council, I have applied to local Council and I did not sign anything that could rent out as association tenants I was thinking that still is with Council. My contract does not say anything about association housing/flat or rental. What I have find out that should be 50% or 30 % less rental from Council Tenants because the houses/flats can not be sold for them in the future.

    So, my rent was not cheat and had not any discount, flat was dirty with fungus and I had not any discount for remount, my all salary went for monthly rent 750.00 and I have find out that flat can not be sell because the HA is the private owner.

    Question is ..what the hell private institution doing in Council ? Only because they want grab own profit what about the poor people which they this way are cheated ?
    Why Council do not inform people about taken over by association house ?

    Normal people thinks that after 5 years they will be able to buy property but they are in mistake - big surprise.
    If you would like require why this is not included on application or why nobody inform you about this on time ? they will response that nobody is obligated to inform you but after 5 years renting then will kick you !!! from property and do not let you buy. they will inform you about this.

    Do you think it is fair ?

    Housing associations are charities; they're not focused on profit, but on providing a service for their customers (people in need of housing). Rental income tends to be spent on maintaining properties or building new developments.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • fairy_lights
    fairy_lights Posts: 9,220 Forumite
    Zahir764 wrote: »
    Normal people thinks that after 5 years they will be able to buy property but they are in mistake - big surprise.
    If you would like require why this is not included on application or why nobody inform you about this on time ? they will response that nobody is obligated to inform you but after 5 years renting then will kick you !!! from property and do not let you buy. they will inform you about this.

    Do you think it is fair ?
    Well, yes?
    You still benefit from living in a housing association property for all those years, even if you don't get to buy it at the end.
  • Zahir764
    Zahir764 Posts: 3 Newbie
    edited 29 March 2017 at 8:28PM
    What kind of benefit are you talking about ? Paying 750.00 per month ? You all do not understand only protect the institution and Law , if you can not advice that is not problem.

    All of you know but go to street and try to do review simple people...I am sure mostly people do not know and everybody like me, not aware because application have not included the point. I think you all do not help people and can not advice properly.
    Rent a flat for 750.00 you have a house with garden and no problem to rent. But looks like HAG is not different than selling agency.

    Cheeky _Mo ....if you have problem with my English, I can not help you. Try speak in different language than English then we will see how good you are.
  • Zahir764 wrote: »
    What kind of benefit are you talking about ? Paying 750.00 per month ? You all do not understand only protect the institution and Law , if you can not advice that is not problem.

    All of you know but go to street and try to do review simple people...I am sure mostly people do not know and everybody like me, not aware because application have not included the point. I think you all do not help people and can not advice properly.
    Rent a flat for 750.00 you have a house with garden and no problem to rent. But looks like HAG is not different than selling agency.

    Cheeky _Mo ....if you have problem with my English, I can not help you. Try speak in different language than English then we will see how good you are.


    I think what I think was meant by benefit is that housing association tenants are better treated than by some private landlords. The quality of the homes are good as well.

    As I said previously, if it was done to me I'd stop this right to buy right now.

    I think it would be courteous to the person whose thread thus original was if you started your own thread if you wish to continue arguing your point.
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Zahir764 wrote: »
    What kind of benefit are you talking about ? Paying 750.00 per month ? You all do not understand only protect the institution and Law , if you can not advice that is not problem.

    All of you know but go to street and try to do review simple people...I am sure mostly people do not know and everybody like me, not aware because application have not included the point. I think you all do not help people and can not advice properly.
    Rent a flat for 750.00 you have a house with garden and no problem to rent. But looks like HAG is not different than selling agency.

    Cheeky _Mo ....if you have problem with my English, I can not help you. Try speak in different language than English then we will see how good you are.

    Rents are not the same all over the UK. £750 per month where I live is extremely cheap for anything.

    If you think that you can rent something cheaper from the private sector then you are free to do that. Housing association tenancies are likely to be longer term than private rents though so you would need to check very carefully what you are getting.

    The point about social housing council housing/ housing association is that it is there to help people who can't find anywhere to live to have a settled home. It offers affordable rents. It is not there to give people the chance for ultra cheap rents. Housing associations have costs too they have to be able to pay them from the rent they receive. They are also not there to allow people to buy housing cheaply.

    If you can afford to buy a house you can always buy one on the open market and if you can afford to rent a property cheaper privately then you can always do that. I am sure that the housing association has a waiting list of people needing their housing. Social housing is in short supply so if you can do better in the private sector there is nothing stopping you from doing that. Just remember that the leases in the private sector offer less security than housing association leases.
  • Cheeky_Monkey
    Cheeky_Monkey Posts: 2,072 Forumite
    Zahir764 wrote: »
    Cheeky _Mo ....if you have problem with my English, I can not help you. Try speak in different language than English then we will see how good you are.

    I don't need to speak in a different language as I have no intention of posting on a forum in a foreign country :beer:
  • Pixie5740
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    Housing Associations are very different from Estate Agents. Housing Associations are not-for-profit organisations whereas Estate Agents, and Letting Agents for that matter, are businesses operating to make a profit.

    If you are not happy with your HA home then you are free to go and find somewhere in the private rental market to live. Similarly you are free to save up a deposit with a view to buying a property that's for sale on the housing market. Your destiny is in your hands and I happen to think that is fair. Much fairer than some people being given tax payer subsidised discounts to buy homes whilst others are not given the same opportunity or even the same opportunity to rent a home with a more secure tenancy.
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