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  • Johno100
    Johno100 Posts: 5,259 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    It's not a sensible thing to do, hiding the keys.

    You ask the victim who was woken up in the early hours with a knife to his child's throat if he'd wished the keys had been by the front door.

    Nah, what you describe is a very rare occurrence the last thing most burglars want is to come into contact with the householder.

    And what's your reasoning for not hiding the keys when you are away from the property?
  • ilikewatch
    ilikewatch Posts: 1,072 Forumite
    Robisere wrote: »
    Have you ever seen a car transporter loaded with used cars? Nowadays, on Police advice, all reg. plates must be obscured or covered. The reason, as stated above in the first Reply by Tiddlywinks, to prevent cloning.

    Surely the reason that the number plates on cars being moved via transporter are covered is to stop them pinging every ANPR on the journey and amassing a string of fines for no tax/insurance. Normally it only seems to be the rearmost cars that have their plates obscured, and these are the ones which would be seen by an ANPR?

    Also, why on earth would anyone want to clone a car which is on a transporter - surely you would want to clone a car which is on the road and taxed/insured, rather than a car which might spend the next 6 months sat in storage/on a forecourt for sale?
  • Johno100 wrote: »
    Nah, what you describe is a very rare occurrence the last thing most burglars want is to come into contact with the householder.

    And what's your reasoning for not hiding the keys when you are away from the property?

    If they've come for the car, I'll let you work that one out.
  • ilikewatch wrote: »
    Surely the reason that the number plates on cars being moved via transporter are covered is to stop them pinging every ANPR on the journey and amassing a string of fines for no tax/insurance. Normally it only seems to be the rearmost cars that have their plates obscured, and these are the ones which would be seen by an ANPR?

    Also, why on earth would anyone want to clone a car which is on a transporter - surely you would want to clone a car which is on the road and taxed/insured, rather than a car which might spend the next 6 months sat in storage/on a forecourt for sale?


    That wouldn't happen.
  • ilikewatch
    ilikewatch Posts: 1,072 Forumite
    That wouldn't happen.

    Why not, can ANPR cameras distinguish between a car being driven on the road, or on the back of a transporter?
  • ilikewatch wrote: »
    Why not, can ANPR cameras distinguish between a car being driven on the road, or on the back of a transporter?

    No, but the human eye can.
  • ilikewatch
    ilikewatch Posts: 1,072 Forumite
    No, but the human eye can.

    Yes, but when would the human eye get a chance to distinguish? Do the police/DVLA etc. actually manually check each event before a fine is triggered? I have always assumed that (unlike traffic cameras) the ANPR's just read and logged the VRM rather than taking a photograph.
  • ilikewatch wrote: »
    Yes, but when would the human eye get a chance to distinguish? Do the police/DVLA etc. actually manually check each event before a fine is triggered? I have always assumed that (unlike traffic cameras) the ANPR's just read and logged the VRM rather than taking a photograph.

    DVLA sites are manned and police sites pass the details out to patrols. It's not done automatically.
  • ilikewatch
    ilikewatch Posts: 1,072 Forumite
    DVLA sites are manned and police sites pass the details out to patrols. It's not done automatically.

    But still, why would anyone want to clone a car being moved on a transporter? Surely there's a minimal chance that the car is taxed/insured, and if I was wanting to clone a car I would want to find one that was legal to be used on the road - it would be quicker/easier to cruise supermarket car parks to find a matching car which had MOT, VED, insurance.
  • ilikewatch wrote: »
    But still, why would anyone want to clone a car being moved on a transporter? Surely there's a minimal chance that the car is taxed/insured, and if I was wanting to clone a car I would want to find one that was legal to be used on the road - it would be quicker/easier to cruise supermarket car parks to find a matching car which had MOT, VED, insurance.

    Yes, Robisere is talking rubbish.
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