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Re-claiming PPI as had great employment and income protection insurance

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,799 Forumite
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    It is very important to tell them that you were unaware you could complain until now because of the three and six year rule.

    The 3/6 year rule wouldnt not be overruled if you say you didnt know you could complain until now. So, adding it to a complaint is irrelevant. The OP has already complained and has had their complaint considered. So, the firm is not using the 3/6 year rule to timebar it.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Helper1
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    Accepted. I rephrase, "putting the point in will help MITIGATE the chances (not completely eradicate) of them using EITHER the three or six-year rule." as stated above.
  • -taff
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    Except they're not time barring it.....
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  • Nasqueron
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    Helper1 wrote: »
    Accepted. I rephrase, "putting the point in will help MITIGATE the chances (not completely eradicate) of them using EITHER the three or six-year rule." as stated above.

    No it won't

    Full stop.

    I'm sure you heard this at your CMC induction / training but it's irrelevant.

    It's actually fascinating seeing how CMC staff work as it explains why complaints are more likely to be rejected vs complaining yourself - loads of irrelevant waffle and factually incorrect stuff.

    Why would you even bother mentioning the 3 year rule which might make the bank think about it when they previously wouldn't have done.

    Either way, it's irrelevant as the 3 year rule will not, and will never, be bypassed by you pretending you didn't know you could complain about PPI

    As I have stated above, the 6 year rule is six years from taking out the policy, it's fixed and nothing to do with PPI complaining - if you took it out 28/2/2011 then it's 6 years since and thus the time bar is in effect no matter what you write

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Alpine_Star
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    ''The complaints handling rules already set time limits for consumers to make complaints about financial products. These time limits are generally six years from the event the consumer is complaining about or, if later, three years from when the consumer knew, or could reasonably have known, they had cause to complain. In the case of PPI, because many consumers did not know they had been mis-sold PPI, these time limits may not yet be triggered.''


    https://www.fca.org.uk/news/press-releases/fca-finalise-plans-place-deadline-ppi-complaints
  • Nasqueron
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    ''The complaints handling rules already set time limits for consumers to make complaints about financial products. These time limits are generally six years from the event the consumer is complaining about or, if later, three years from when the consumer knew, or could reasonably have known, they had cause to complain. In the case of PPI, because many consumers did not know they had been mis-sold PPI, these time limits may not yet be triggered.''


    https://www.fca.org.uk/news/press-releases/fca-finalise-plans-place-deadline-ppi-complaints

    If the bank has written to the customer with a CCL or similar advising of the policy, they can invoke the 3 year rule, the FOS accept this as a trigger. It's why many packaged account complaints are being rejected now as the banks are thorough in sending out welcome packs and annual statements with details of the package benefits and telling people how to change if they wish to, thus invoking the 3 year rule

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,799 Forumite
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    But all this is a moot point because the firm in this thread are not invoking the 3/6 year timebar. So, raising it with the FOS after a rejection is totally pointless.

    And even if it was a new complaint it is still pointless as saying you didnt know would not overrule a valid timebar either. It is just adding unnecessary text to a letter.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • [Deleted User]
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    -taff wrote: »
    Except they're not time barring it.....

    "Helper1" isn't helping very much.

    The Bank have rejected the complaint on the basis that the OP agreed to the insurance. There is therefore no point in the OP saying she didn't know she could complain before now as that is irrelevant.

    There is also no question in the OP's post suggesting that the Bank are invoking any kind of time-bar.
    Oh, thanks, I will continue with this claim then.
    First read posts #4 and #7, these are the only useful answers concerning your personal situation so far in your thread. I strongly advise you to ignore "Helper1"
  • Nasqueron
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    "Helper1" isn't helping very much.

    The Bank have rejected the complaint on the basis that the OP agreed to the insurance. There is therefore no point in the OP saying she didn't know she could complain before now as that is irrelevant.

    There is also no question in the OP's post suggesting that the Bank are invoking any kind of time-bar.


    First read posts #4 and #7, these are the only useful answers concerning your personal situation so far in your thread. I strongly advise you to ignore "Helper1"

    It got a bit off topic because helper1 is a typical CMC employee, doesn't read the post properly, suggests nonsense and adds in unhelpful or wrong stuff

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • [Deleted User]
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    Nasqueron wrote: »
    It got a bit off topic because helper1 is a typical CMC employee
    Although that user claims to work for a Claims Company, I sincerely doubt he does (or ever did). Clearly, he was (is) posting simply to cause (off-topic) arguments.
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