Car accident - was it my fault?

photome

Op

You IMO have shot yourself in the foot with your recent post.

No one has any " rights " when driving

And you should always assume that the other driver is going to make that stupid manoeuvre not assume they won't

Sicard

Car_54 wrote: »

Illegally? What law do you have in mind?

Also, it was the OP who changed lanes and cut in front of the other driver.

Careless driving perhaps for the Truculent Urban Radical Driver.

The OP didn't change lanes. They were in the correct lane all the way round and then had the choice to exit in the left or right-hand lane. Turd One was in the wrong lane all the way round.

tho_2

On my first driving lesson that tackled roundabouts my instructor pressed into me to check over my shoulder before I pull off for this very reason.

I'm with the 50/50. She shouldn't have done it. You definitely could have missed her. The fact she's in front of you is a massive problem for you. You could see her and drove into her.

Sicard the Op DID change lanes. They didn't just have the choice to exit. The 2nd lane on a roundabout doesn't just go down the exit road. (how else would people from 9 o'clock get to 6 on the diagram?) If he hadn't changed lanes he'd still be there, going round in a circle...

Aylesbury_Duck

laurencecockayne wrote: »

What a presumptuous statement.

It was, I'm sorry. Presumption can lead to all sorts of problems...

laurencecockayne wrote: »

As the roundabout is laid out, you HAVE to cross the left lane to exit the roundabout, its a 2 lane flow from beginning to end. Entrance, roundabout and exit are all two lanes. Using this system i didn't actually leave my lane, but according to the road markings i have. But i had a right to do so, the other driver had no right to maneuver how she did. We'll have to see how the insurers see it. Ultimately, who CAUSED the accident?

You don't HAVE to, you MAY if it's safe to do so.

The insurers will see it as 50:50, or if the other party is crafty, she'll have persuaded them that she was heading for the next exit and you swiped across her lane, which you did. She needn't mention that she was in the wrong lane to start with, that's your assertion which she might rubbish.

Ultimately, you CAUSED the accident. The other party was at fault for using the roundabout incorrectly and creating the opportunity for the accident to occur but it needn't have resulted in an accident. You caused the accident when you elected to take the exit without knowing it was safe to do so.

aled247

Maybe go onto google maps and find the roundabout and send us the co-ordinates.
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Sicard

tho wrote: »

On my first driving lesson that tackled roundabouts my instructor pressed into me to check over my shoulder before I pull off for this very reason.

I'm with the 50/50. She shouldn't have done it. You definitely could have missed her. The fact she's in front of you is a massive problem for you. You could see her and drove into her.

Sicard the Op DID change lanes. They didn't just have the choice to exit. The 2nd lane on a roundabout doesn't just go down the exit road. (how else would people from 9 o'clock get to 6 on the diagram?) If he hadn't changed lanes he'd still be there, going round in a circle...

I see what you're saying but that's a mite pedantic. He didn't change lanes per se. He passed across the lane to exit. I do it all the time at roundabouts otherwise they'd be retitled merry-go-rounds. He did keep in the correct lane all the way around contra to the other party who was in the wrong lane all the way round.

DoaM

Sicard wrote: »

He did keep in the correct lane all the way around contra to the other party who was in the wrong lane all the way round.

Nobody disputes that. The problem is that the OP then made the error by trying to take an exit (by crossing lanes) when the way wasn't clear. OP presumed/assumed that the other party would take the same exit (despite any evidence to support that) and thus caused the collision.

neilmcl

DoaM wrote: »

Nobody disputes that. The problem is that the OP then made the error by trying to take an exit (by crossing lanes) when the way wasn't clear. OP presumed/assumed that the other party would take the same exit (despite any evidence to support that) [STRIKE]and thus caused the collision[/STRIKE] and thus shares liability for the collision.

That's just my opinion.

reeac

Car_54 wrote: »

But if the red car had entered at 12 o'clock to exit at 6 o'clock, he would have been in the correct lane, and the blue car would still have hit him ...

I assume that in this case the OP would have given way to the red car by slackening off on the accelerator ( or possibly "slamming on the brakes" which seems to be a favoured reaction in this forum) and passing behind it. In the event though because, of the previous behaviour of the red car, he tried to barge through and teach them a lesson about roundabout etiquette. Very silly.

Bonniepurple

I had this several years ago. I missed my exit, so had to carry on round. I was in the left hand lane. There was a bloke in a Merc in the right hand lane. He attempted to do two manoeuvres in one - exit roundabout and over take me. He failed and crashed into me, dragging me onto the M50.

As I was in the wrong lane, I was at fault. Annoyingly, if he'd dabbed the brake rather than the accelerator, the accident would not have happened.