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Car accident - was it my fault?
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Unfortunately it doesn't uncurl. Its a traditional one in that sense. I think its going to be a 50-50 here.
As for signalling, i was indicating right and had just started indicating left when the accident happened. I cant remember if she was indicating, i dont remember seeing any indications.0 -
Yes EthelBerta. But it isn't as simple as that, as she was along side me.This isnt a case of me crashing head on into the side of her car.0
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And all of this has happened 1 month before my 5th years no claims discount (I lost them all when i didnt have a policy for a few years).
I was 1 month away from protecting them!0 -
From the description, and we've all seen many threads where that is subjective to the individual, then I'd have said the OP is morally in the right.
I'd expect it to go 50:50 with the insurers though.0 -
The OP said: "She is along side me, we are pretty much side by side. she was maybe slightly ahead of me but only by a metre or 2"
He was in lane 2. Before moving into lane 1, he should have checked that the lane was clear. He should also have signalled left. It appears from the above that he did check, knew there was a car, but moved into the lane regardless, thinking that the car was about to exit. He made his decision on an assumption rather than observation.
How can he not be at fault?0 -
laurencecockayne wrote: »Would someone be willing to post the link on my behalf if i PM them?0
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10 or 15 posts to add links but you can just do it as h x x p rather than http and someone will correct it
I'm with you as there is one roundabout near me where people do this all the time, the approach is 2 lanes at a traffic light, it feeds into 2 lanes plus an additional filter on the right for a supermarket. Some people go in the left lane to avoid the queue then try and race off at the lights and immediately cut in right but sometimes they can't due to traffic going straight ahead (not into the filter) so they end up getting to the roundabout in the left lane and try and swing around right and there are regular near misses as all the exits are single lane (there is a left exit into a business park, a straight ahead for a cinema and a right hand exit) and the traffic trying to force their way around right from the left hand lane should always be at fault but I bet a dash cam would mean you win the caseSam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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laurencecockayne wrote: »The other car cut across me, at no point did i change lane. I was in the right hand lane of the roundabout about to exit and enter the right hand lane of the DC.
The other driver was in the left hand lane and cut across me to try and continue on round the roundabout.
Be honest, you tried to overtake her on the roundabout and cocked it up. If you were using the roundabout correctly you should have been in the left lane of it as you passed the last entry before your exit and should also have been indicating left at that point too.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
He was in lane 2. Before moving into lane 1, he should have checked that the lane was clear. He should also have signalled left. It appears from the above that he did check, knew there was a car, but moved into the lane regardless, thinking that the car was about to exit. He made his decision on an assumption rather than observation.
How can he not be at fault?
Strictly speaking you might be right but there is a roundabout like this near me I use it every morning to get to work. It is not a DC its a road that later filters into one lane.
Like the OP I need to take the right turn (3rd exit). I stay in the right hand lane and join the exit road in the right hand lane.
Regardless of the third party in this case joining the roundabout in the wrong lane. If that person had joined the roundabout via the road before the DC to turn left they would be in the same place, left hand lane exiting onto the road to the left hand lane.
This happens everyday with me, if I were not to trust that the car on my left was in the correct lane and taking the correct turn for their position I would be driving round the roundabout on the right nearly all morning! There is no space due to the amount of traffic to wait until there is a clear space for me to move over into the left lane to take my exit (hence the need for the road design to allow this via the filter lanes)
I have to take the right hand land on the approach to the roundabout, the road markings dictate this. What I could do is once I join the roundabout filter over to the left before my exit, this will cause stress to the other drivers as I will slow them down/disrupt the flow of traffic by doing that. They might beep at me, I might then post on here complaining people are beeping at me and I bet the answer I would get, would be to stay in the right hand lane and take the right exit onto the road (OP whatever you do you are wrong on here)0 -
Be honest, you tried to overtake her on the roundabout and cocked it up. If you were using the roundabout correctly you should have been in the left lane of it as you passed the last entry before your exit and should also have been indicating left at that point too.
Not necessarily if it was an exit on to a dual carriageway but yes the OP should have been indicating left before she did.
I think it's 50/500
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