PPN Debt Recovery Service

TinkersJF

A little help,


I have just received a letter from PPN Debt Recovery and Prosecution services for a PArking Charge Notice.
They state I must pay £165 within 14 days or face court action. However there is no appeal option or any details to contact them other than automated payment lines - Is this legal?
I will obviously appeal this as I have used the phone payment option on the day in question and have all of the receipts for my parking.


Any advice would be great thanks in advance

twhitehousescat

I have never heard of PPN Debt Recovery and Prosecution services , full name and address please

also , who was the parking Co

upon that info further help can be offered


edit: was this a railway car park?

Fruitcake

Debt collectors have absolutely no powers and cannot start court proceedings so they can safely be ignored. Never ever 'phone them, or a parking company.

twhitehousescat

sounds like a railway job , and a TOC request for money (£165?)

Fruitcake

twhitehousescat wrote: »

sounds like a railway job , and a TOC request for money (£165?)

I have just found something similar on pepipoo that was indeed for a railway car park.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=34137

TinkersJF

Hi All, Yes a railway car park, The parking provider is Indigo.


PPN address is:


Debt Recovery
Prosecutions Office
PO BOX 89
Portsmouth
PO1 1EG


No other correspondence options at all.
I've not seen a letter like this before at all.


Thanks again

twhitehousescat

ok , more info please , what was the date of the offence , we are dealikng with railway bylaws here , not the basic parking scum

date of offence?

TinkersJF

The date of offence is 9th November 2016.


Parking payment made via the phone service option for 1 days parking.

twhitehousescat

ok , this is a bylaw case , the parking cos try to work on railway land and claam for "p;arking"

there has been a kickoff with the dvla / bpa and others , POPLa are not doing any more appeals , the cases should be done by the train co , via magistrates

they have only 6 mths to take action , , we are now 3.5 mths into this

does the letter state that you have broken bylaw 14 or simular??

you could contact indigo and ask for copies , then kick off to the BPA ,

await other comments ,

TinkersJF

Yes they state Byelaw 14, their favourite, should we have had any previous contact prior to this letter though?
They state:
A PPN was placed on the vehicle on the date but payment has not been received.
As you are the owner of the vehicle on the date you a re legally liable for the parking penalty in accordance with byelaw 14(4) Please select one of the payment methods below.


It is too late to pay the 50% discount rate the Parking penalty now due is £165 and this must be paid in accordance with the instructions below.


It does not state anything about potentially taking you to court which again is strange as I thought they used to like throwing that line at you?


Also the Letter footer reads:
London & South Eastern Railway Limited trading as Debt Recovery and Prosecution Services
Registered office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle, NE1 6EE


Is this then a direct branch of South Eastern rail as a company?

twhitehousescat

you need to get a dialogue running 1st class royal mail ping pong , cintact indigo and appeal , ask for a POPLa code if they disagree , contact the BPA and state no ticket on car , first letter was from debt collection and you want to appeal ,

indigo will not give a POPLa code because

2. POPLA and appeal process for Railway Land
There is a meeting on 27th January 2017 to discuss this issues. John Gallagher decided to
make a decision on the outstanding cases as they could not stay adjourned, he concluded
that he would allow them all. He has invited the Operators to withdraw them and will allow
the rest. He is meeting with with the DVLA, DCLG and the Railway Operators on the 27
January 2017 to agree the process including the appeals.
If you park in a railway car park it will be a criminal case and they will allow clamping, which
does not seem good practice.
One possibility is the DVLA to say that operators can continue to use POPLA but this means all
appeals will be dismissed. Currently they are bound by the decision where the appellant is
not. The alternative will be to take POPLA out of the equation and then it is pursued through
the criminal system