None approved Fensa Door

Amley76

I am selling my house and will need a Fensa Certificate for my front door.

I didn't use a person that was Fensa certified and had no idea of it existence when it was installed!!

What can I do now? as I have been told that I will need to provide one...

Thanks

-taff

When did you have it installed? Fensa began in 2002.

Amley76

-taff wrote: »

When did you have it installed? Fensa began in 2002.

No..Last year.

DoaM

Why do you need a FENSA certificate? Is it a legal requirement in E+W?

On reading online, FENSA only applies to the installer, not the door itself. So if you didn't use a FENSA-registered installer there's no way (I can see) you can get a certificate.

hazyjo

They may settle for an indemnity policy. Usually around the £50-100 mark. I'll be in the same boat...


Jx

Cheeky_Monkey

There's a question on the Property Information Form (I believe) about whether you have had any new windows or doors (front or back) installed.

My son had this problem when selling. You need to contact your local council building control and they'll send an inspector round to confirm it meets the relevant standards and issue you a certificate. From memory, I think it cost him about £150.

G_M

DoaM wrote: »

Why do you need a FENSA certificate? Is it a legal requirement in E+W?

On reading online, FENSA only applies to the installer, not the door itself. So if you didn't use a FENSA-registered installer there's no way (I can see) you can get a certificate.

No - you totally misunderstand.

What you need is Building Regulations certification (that the door complies with minimum requirements etc). This can be provided by either

* the local council's Building Control dept, or
* a 'Competant Person' authorised by Building Control to issue a certificate.

'Competant Person' is anyone who is a member of (and approved by) one of several bodies eg

* FENSA
* CERTASS
* one more the name of which I foget

Since the door was fitted a year ago, there is a risk that BC could inspect it, and if it is not compliant, force the home-owner to replace it ( or amend it) so tha it complies.

Your options are

1) contact Building Control and apply for retrospective R certification, which will cost, and which might result in haveing to replace the door if it is non-compliant

or

2) buy an indemnity insurance, which would pay out in the event of BC enforcing the regs in the future. But note that if you contact the council now (eg 1 above), then the insurance would be invalid.

The insurance could be passed to a buyer.

Chanes

And...

Doors with less than 50% glazing do not require registration with FENSA.

ReadingTim

You don't need to provide anything - simply inform the buyer that you don't have the documents, have no intention of retrospectively obtaining them, nor any form of indemnity in respect of their absence. If the buyer wants them, they can obtain them at their own expense after the purchase of the property. It's a door, !!!!!!.

Obviously such a response could cause them to try and renegotiate the price, or even scare them off totally, but sometimes you need to stamp down on pointless box-ticking and paper-chasing exercises such as this - the house isn't going to fall down because you don't have a poorly designed Microsoft word template "certificate"

G_M

Unfortunately it's often a buyer's mortgage lender who insists on the certificate or insurance, so the decision may be out of the buyer's hands.

But I agree - yes, it's just a door !!!!!!!

Amley76

My thoughts exactly!

I have also been asked a Gas safety Certificate, which I had done Monday. I was told it wasn't a Gas Certificate!! I've had it checked by GAS SAFE and it is correct. They have said they want the Building control certificate is what they mean, but we dont have one has the boiler was installed years before these certificates even became mandatory........but they still want one. I have even phoned Gas safe themselves and they have told me I dont need one!!

Just a joke and so stressful!