Owners of polluting cars to face £20+ daily charge to drive in London

PasturesNew

Car_54 wrote: »

How many "poor" people commute into central London by car, where they would already pay £11.50 congestion charge and probably £30+ to park every day?

Very few, I'd suggest.

Most of those affected will be driving old/polluting cars through choice, not necessity.

I've no idea. I've never been... I don't really know about the congestion charge or how it works etc.

Norman_Castle

jobdone1 wrote: »

This is a tax grab. You tree huggers are destroying the economy by banging on about clean air.

Its nothing to do with hugging trees or the economy. Its about air pollution causing respiratory problems and early death in the local environment.
If you live in a city vehicle pollution is likely to have affected you.

phillw

Pincher wrote: »

Eventually, they will understand that you can't allow every Tom !!!! or Harry to have a car. Car ownership requires proof of parking. So, if you live in an apartment, without allocated parking, you will have to rent a space, and provide proof when applying for VED.

If you have a car but nowhere to park it, then the inconvenience will mean that you get rid of it.

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've no idea. I've never been... I don't really know about the congestion charge or how it works etc.

They collect it at traffic lights and clean your windows at the same time. Hipsters are exempt, which is why you see so many of them.

redux wrote: »

Both this London Mayor and his predecessor have also suggested scrappage schemes for diesels.

The environmental cost of scrapping a car and building a new one usually outweighs using an old car. It makes sense to reduce how many bad vehicles are in such a cramped area though.

Car_54

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've no idea. I've never been... I don't really know about the congestion charge or how it works etc.

Well, full marks for honesty. You're admitting that you've condemned the proposal and ascribed it to gentrification, despite complete ignorance of the situation.

Pincher

phillw wrote: »

If you have a car but nowhere to park it, then the inconvenience will mean that you get rid of it.

Currently, the house next door has three cars, and park in front of MY house. They have the smallest plot, but extended upwards and backwards, so they can rent out more rooms. A lodger can end up with a car each. They put screws under the tyres of anyone that park in the space in front of their house. They have an American pitbull, just to complete the picture.

My builder has nowhere to park, because their car is always in front of my house. I end up moving my car so he can park in the drive, because he needs his tools.

Robisere

I bless the fact that I live in a rural area and have no desire to visit London more than twice a year, to see friends. When I go, I drive to a Guest House on the Northern outskirts, using the Tube or buses to see my friends. If I want to visit Central London, it's the same - public transport. Tube where possible, instead of the polluting monsters that are London buses.

I could never live in a large town or city and I have managed to grow, work and live in two villages. I have extreme sympathy for anyone living in a dense conurbation: especially children, growing up in a polluted atmosphere. As an outsider and no tree-hugger, I can understand that something has to be done for those who have to live in an urban environment.

And I drive a diesel, which is parked up at the Guest House until I leave for home.

konark

So why don't they ban these polluting vehicles from the centre of London if they want to improve air quality. Letting them in for a 'donation' is just hypocrisy; it's like saying 'don't speed' , unless you grease my palms then it's OK.

jobdone1

Don't live or work in the city. O and let them feed you the medical crap

PasturesNew

What IS a polluting car anyway?

A diesel that does 100 miles/week, or a petrol Ferrari that does 1000 miles/week?

System

bob_a_builder wrote: »

By the same token

How come they can check if these diesel cars are polluting just from looking up their number via ANPR ?

Diesel cars have to conform to certain Euro standards. Current diesel standard is Euro 6. Each standard had a date that it came into force and all new cars had to comply with it. So say that London has decided that all cars not meeting Euro 4 will be subject to the extra charge then by reading the numberplate and checking the date of first registration with DVLA they can check whether a car meets a minimum of Euro 4 or not.