Driver Prosecuted Over Collision After Cyclist Jumps Red Light

Norman_Castle

Following October’s accident Mr Austin was reported as saying: “I was driving in the city centre of Southampton and had stopped at traffic lights at a junction.
“I moved forward when the lights turned green and it was at that point that a cyclist unexpectedly came across my path and a collision occurred.

If he had just pulled away from the lights he shouldn't have been going that fast so should have had time to react or stop. Did he boot his Bently on red and amber?
Its a serious injury for what should have been a low speed accident.

DoaM

Tilt wrote: »

Obviously either the cyclist's light was red or the driver pulled away while his light was against him. It certainly couldn't of been on green had the cyclist's light been on amber.

What is the thread title?

Where in the report/article does it say red?

Do you now accept you sensationalised the story?

Nasqueron

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

So what is the legislation that states you must stop at amber?

Rule 175

You MUST stop behind the white ‘Stop’ line across your side of the road unless the light is green. If the amber light appears you may go on only if you have already crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to stop might cause a collision.



The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002

Regulation 36
e)the amber signal shall, when shown alone, convey the same prohibition as the red signal, except that, as respects any vehicle which is so close to the stop line that it cannot safely be stopped without proceeding beyond the stop line, it shall convey the same indication as the green signal or green arrow signal which was shown immediately before it;

See also RTA 1998 Section 36 and The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 Regulation 10

Tilt

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

So what is the legislation that states you must stop at amber?

Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016; SCHEDULE 14, paragraph 17 (g).

It's on page 380.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/455160/TSRGD-august-2015-regulations.pdf

Tilt

DoaM wrote: »

What is the thread title?

Where in the report/article does it say red?

Do you now accept you sensationalised the story?

Nope. But will concede that perhaps the thread title should of read "...cyclist failed to comply with a traffic signal".

It's fairly obvious that had the cyclist passed the light on amber, then the driver's light would NOT of been green.

Billy_Bullocks

Nasqueron wrote: »

Rule 175

You MUST stop behind the white ‘Stop’ line across your side of the road unless the light is green. If the amber light appears you may go on only if you have already crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to stop might cause a collision.



The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002

Regulation 36
e)the amber signal shall, when shown alone, convey the same prohibition as the red signal, except that, as respects any vehicle which is so close to the stop line that it cannot safely be stopped without proceeding beyond the stop line, it shall convey the same indication as the green signal or green arrow signal which was shown immediately before it;

See also RTA 1998 Section 36 and The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 Regulation 10

Thanks, I knew there was something about the red and amber but Section 36 didn't cover it.

Nasqueron

I pass several junctions on the way to work and many have lights where red on one = green on the other (as opposed to 2-3s gap which you sometimes get).

You really need to consider if going through on amber is going to give you time to safely cross say 4 lanes of traffic, skidding and possibly slipping over is probably a smaller price to pay than such horrible injuries - some sensible road use is probably wise like if a light has been green a while, ease off - I wouldn't jump an amber on my bike if it was going to leave me racing to get over.

I was once cycling up a hill towards roadworks covering one lane of a two lane road, they went amber as I passed and had to jump on the pavement as there was no way in hell I was going to get to the end before the other side went green

GingerBob_3

Nasqueron wrote: »

Rule 175

You MUST stop behind the white ‘Stop’ line across your side of the road unless the light is green. If the amber light appears you may go on only if you have already crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to stop might cause a collision.



The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002

Regulation 36
e)the amber signal shall, when shown alone, convey the same prohibition as the red signal, except that, as respects any vehicle which is so close to the stop line that it cannot safely be stopped without proceeding beyond the stop line, it shall convey the same indication as the green signal or green arrow signal which was shown immediately before it;

See also RTA 1998 Section 36 and The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 Regulation 10

Who are the brain donors that write this unadulterated guff? The whole blather could be written as "the amber light means stop unless it's unsafe to do so."

Billy_Bullocks

GingerBob wrote: »

Who are the brain donors that write this unadulterated guff? The whole blather could be written as "the amber light means stop unless it's unsafe to do so."

And what would you suggest is the unsafe test?

GingerBob_3

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

And what would you suggest is the unsafe test?

Oh, yes, three extra words maybe (just to cover for people who can't use their common sense)..."before the line...". That still leaves an economical 14 words as against 61 in the garbage version.