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The finances of an Independent Scotland.

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  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    edited 14 February 2017 at 5:55PM
    Any particular reason for the nastiness; I didn't realise I had to supply links to suit you.
    Especially when a link to that site had already been provided.

    How would you feel I wonder about letting Edinburgh Castle fall to ruin?

    I want to know why he's not complaining that the English taxpayer is sending money to Scotland, it's vastly more than the Queen is getting. Why not militate on behalf of the English taxpayer? It would be a good experiment to see if Scotland can really afford everything they enjoy now.

    With Scottish services in dire straits even with Barnett funding whilst running a deficit over 9%. Perhaps it would be a wake-up call to the nationalists to experience indy-lite and still have the opportunity to row back on their complete BS. And in the meantime the rest of the UK has a bit more money to throw around at the problems we've got.

    Happy to spend others money but complains like hell when someone spends theirs, particularly this sss555s poster. He's ideologically opposed to his taxes being spent on anyone except Scottish people, see HS2 example, but when I point out that the rest of the UK is actually giving more money to Scotland because of such projects it all goes silent. But damn! The Queen is getting a relative stipend to keep the palace in working order for the tourists to flock to London off the back of Scottish slaves!!!
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    Any particular reason for the nastiness; I didn't realise I had to supply links to suit you.
    Especially when a link to that site had already been provided.

    How would you feel I wonder about letting Edinburgh Castle fall to ruin?

    No nastiness and I just wondered why you would go to wiki when I had already given the facts from their official site, hence the ?

    How I would feel about Edinburgh castle is a million miles from the original point that was questioned from my post.
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    sss555s wrote: »
    The tax man and her decided to pay for the refurb by giving her a 66% pay rise on her 15% revenue salary for 10 years.

    No the tax man has given her a capital expenditure allowance for 10 years. As most businesses in the UK are entitled to.

    You really are just being obtuse I imagine because you are a dyed in the wool republican who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    Hintza wrote: »
    No the tax man has given her a capital expenditure allowance for 10 years. As most businesses in the UK are entitled to.

    You really are just being obtuse I imagine because you are a dyed in the wool republican who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

    So I can ask the tax man to give me a large free tax break for 10 years as my business building is starting to look a bit shabby? I thought not!!

    The revenue will still be missing from what it would have been previously allocated for and you and I will have to stump up while the Queen gets her gaff tarted up.

    I'd say your assumption of me is way off.

    Anyway, that was just a single example of my point :D
  • I've already noted at some length in the OP that an iScotland would be quite significantly economically worse off - and also that Indy would make me personally less wealthy - but unless Mayhem changes course fairly quickly I'll be voting for it anyway.

    A little late in the day, but nice that you have finally come to realise that there is more to the issue of sovereignty than merely economics.
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    I've already noted at some length in the OP that an iScotland would be quite significantly economically worse off - and also that Indy would make me personally less wealthy - but unless Mayhem changes course fairly quickly I'll be voting for it anyway.

    In other words, the exact opposite of your position on Brexit. Extraordinary.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    sss555s wrote: »
    ...Anyway, that was just a single example of my point :D

    I'm afraid that you don't have a point.

    This independent Scotland has a fiscal deficit of £15 bn, not spending a few million quid on Brenda's London pad ain't gonna dig it out of that hole.Something a bit more dramatic might be required, like a 30% basic rate of income tax.:)
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    A little late in the day, but nice that you have finally come to realise that there is more to the issue of sovereignty than merely economics.

    Yes, but this is the Debate House Prices & the Economy forum, so it would be entirely appropriate to discuss house prices in Aberdeen, and the finances of an independent Scotland. For sovereignity, Discussion Time might be more appropriate.
    cogito wrote: »
    In other words, the exact opposite of your position on Brexit. Extraordinary.

    Well I have pointed out that, if (a) leaving the European Single Market is going to be such a disaster for Scotland, then (b) leaving the British Single Market is going to be cataclysm of epic proportions.

    It's not logical to argue (a) and deny (b).
  • antrobus wrote: »
    Yes, but this is the Debate House Prices & the Economy forum, so it would be entirely appropriate to discuss house prices in Aberdeen, and the finances of an independent Scotland. For sovereignity, Discussion Time might be more appropriate.



    Well I have pointed out that, if (a) leaving the European Single Market is going to be such a disaster for Scotland, then (b) leaving the British Single Market is going to be cataclysm of epic proportions.

    It's not logical to argue (a) and deny (b).

    And yet the SNP, a political party whose comments are reported widely in the mainstream news media are happy to go around claiming that Brexit is terrible because Scotland stands to lose approx. 80,000 jobs and therefore the Single Market is the most important part of the Scottish economy. But will completely omit that approx. 1,000,000 Scottish jobs rely on the union of the UK.

    Or that Scottish exports will be hit hard by Brexit, when only 11% of Scottish exports go to the EU but 64% go to the rest of the UK.

    They want everyone to believe that independence is the answer, it's not it's worse. They're just liars, and their supporters are complicit.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,924 Forumite
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    But I thought a Brexited England would still have unfettered trade with whoever they want?

    Yes, Scotland has very close ties to England, and I'd assume it'll stay that way unless England starts doing something self-destructive and petty.
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