CP Plus, DRP, and moving house

littlepea1

Hi,

I was hoping I could get some advice on my situation, as I have not seen any threads with similar personal circumstances.

I was sent a PCN from CP Plus for parking at Knutsford M6 Services back in October 2016. I genuinely had no idea that there was a charge for parking there, and I had a kip for what was around 4 hours. After reading around, the advice was pointing towards ignoring, which I did. I had 4 letters from CP Plus, and have had 2 subsequent letters from DRP in an attempt to recover the invoice.

My issue is this...I am happy to continue ignoring, and seeing if this goes away. However, I am moving house on the 17th Feb. My concern is that a letter notifying me of their intentions to take me to court may be sent to my current address, and I will never see it.

What would you do in my scenario?

Fruitcake

Ignoring has not been advised here since the law changed in 2012. You have been given bad/out of date advice.

All you can do now is tell the toothless deb collectors and the parking scammers your new address when you have moved in case they try court in the next six years. Deny the debt to the debt crawlers at the same time.
Also set up mail forwarding.

What happened when you asked the Services manager to cancel the ticket?

Coupon-mad

littlepea1 wrote: »

Hi,

I was hoping I could get some advice on my situation, as I have not seen any threads with similar personal circumstances.

I was sent a PCN from CP Plus for parking at Knutsford M6 Services back in October 2016. I genuinely had no idea that there was a charge for parking there, and I had a kip for what was around 4 hours. After reading around, the advice was pointing towards ignoring, which I did. I had 4 letters from CP Plus, and have had 2 subsequent letters from DRP in an attempt to recover the invoice.

My issue is this...I am happy to continue ignoring, and seeing if this goes away. However, I am moving house on the 17th Feb. My concern is that a letter notifying me of their intentions to take me to court may be sent to my current address, and I will never see it.

What would you do in my scenario?

We would have appealed and beaten it easily at POPLA, as explained in the NEWBIES thread you appear to have missed. You read old advice, always frustrating to read someone has read old stuff when our advice has NOT been to ignore, since 2013.

Now you will have to await court papers and defend it. CP Plus sometimes try. Defendable, no effect on credit rating - more stressful than a simple template appeal would have been though!

You MUST email DRplus and CP Plus and give them your new address, maybe also pointing out you know their can be no 'keeper liability' under the POFA and the driver will NOT be named. DRPlus will treat it as a late appeal and reject it, but the point is:

- to tell them your new address, so you don;t get court papers sent to an old address sneakily, in a couple of years time

and

- to tell them you know you are not liable in law and that the driver will not be identified, as is a keeper's right. Not liable then!

littlepea1

Fruitcake wrote: »

Ignoring has not been advised here since the law changed in 2012. You have been given bad/out of date advice.

All you can do now is tell the toothless deb collectors and the parking scammers your new address when you have moved in case they try court in the next six years. Deny the debt to the debt crawlers at the same time.
Also set up mail forwarding.

What happened when you asked the Services manager to cancel the ticket?

I was worried informing them of a change of address would somehow admit liability for the fine. What information would you suggest I refrain from telling them? The picture they have does not show a driver in the car. The manager I spoke to at the services suggested that she didn't know what she could do, as she is not the once charging me. She has passes it onto her boss at my request, and I am waiting to hear back.

littlepea1

Coupon-mad wrote: »

We would have appealed and beaten it easily at POPLA, as explained in the NEWBIES thread you appear to have missed. You read old advice, always frustrating to read someone has read old stuff when our advice has NOT been to ignore, since 2013.
!

Yes it seems I did read bad advice unfortunately. Thanks for your reply!

littlepea1

Plan is to email a letter, headed with new address, notifying them that I am aware that I am not liable under law, and that the driver will not be identified as is keepers rights. Is there anything else worth putting into the letter?

Quentin

littlepea1 wrote: »

. What information would you suggest I refrain from giving them should I call? .

Don't call!!


Write notifying them (both) of your new address for all future correspondence


If sending by post, hand the letters in at a post Office and get (and keep) 2 separate certificates of posting (FOC)

littlepea1

Okay will do, thank you. Any particular reason to post rather than email?

Fruitcake

littlepea1 wrote: »

Okay will do, thank you. Any particular reason to post rather than email?

None. The advice was to email or post if you can't email, and how to post if you need to. You could always do both anyway to be sure, but you need to tell both the parking scammers and the debt crawlers (who you must also tell that you deny the debt and must refer it back to their paymaster, the parking scammers.)

Quentin

No - email will be fine, post also fine as you get a hard certificate proving you sent it which you know you have should they send in correspondence to your old address years in the future (whereby you end up with a CCJ because you knew nothing about a claim against you)

Coupon-mad

littlepea1 wrote: »

Okay will do, thank you. Any particular reason to post rather than email?

My advice was to email both, not post. Keep proof for up to six years (keep the 'sent items' in a folder just in case).

And don't just put the address randomly in it; draw their specific attention to the address and forbid them to continue to process your old address data or you will report them to the Information Commissioner.