Moving home and to fixed price supplier at the same time

ydrol2

Hi I've moved home from BR1 to TN1 and outgoing vendor was on a BG dual tariff.

Whats the best way to decided on a fixed tariff from flowEnergy when moving hose at the same time as switching? I guess just call the energy company ?

Some more info:

I expect new bills to be higher? but no idea how much. I have energy certificate for new home : rating (E/51) Estimate costs for 3 years = £3,654

My last BR1 bills for Scottish Power were £615 gas, £768 leccy on Standard Tarrif- so about £1400 pa, but could have been around £1150 on a fixed tariff I think. (yeah silly me!)

Both properties are mid-terrace and have similary specced Worcester Bosch boilers that are only about 5 years old.

In old property I was with Scottish Power in a double glazed 2 bedroom prewar mid terrace. with cavity wall insulation.

In new property, I would like to use FlowEnergy, however the new property seems a lot less energy efficient than my old one . New one is Victorian 3 bed in a conservation area, bags of character but draughty and only half the windows are double glazed (with what simply looks like air gap to retain original sash frames), other half are single glazed at present.
There is no wall insulation , and I would be wary of getting any on this type pf property TBH.

razord

You need to find out who is the current supplier at the new property. You have to first join them in order to be able to switch.

System

I am sure that you know, but when you move in you are on a Deemed Contract with the existing supplier. Call them with your details and meter readings and ask them for the historical EAC(electricity) and AQ(gas) and use these figures as the basis for doing a comparison. Once you have informed the Deemed Supplier that you exist, you are free to switch. The Deemed Supplier will charge you for energy supplier up to the actual dates of transfer.

footyguy

ydrol2 wrote: »

Hi I've moved home from BR1 to TN1 and outgoing vendor was on a BG dual tariff.

Whats the best way to decided on a fixed tariff from flowEnergy when moving hose at the same time as switching? I guess just call the energy company ?

Some more info:

I expect new bills to be higher? but no idea how much. I have energy certificate for new home : rating (E/51) Estimate costs for 3 years = £3,654

My last BR1 bills for Scottish Power were £615 gas, £768 leccy on Standard Tarrif- so about £1400 pa, but could have been around £1150 on a fixed tariff I think. (yeah silly me!)

Both properties are mid-terrace and have similary specced Worcester Bosch boilers that are only about 5 years old.

In old property I was with Scottish Power in a double glazed 2 bedroom prewar mid terrace. with cavity wall insulation.

In new property, I would like to use FlowEnergy, however the new property seems a lot less energy efficient than my old one . New one is Victorian 3 bed in a conservation area, bags of character but draughty and only half the windows are double glazed (with what simply looks like air gap to retain original sash frames), other half are single glazed at present.
There is no wall insulation , and I would be wary of getting any on this type pf property TBH.

Why have you decided to switch to Flow Energy?

If you don't even know which of their tariffs would be the cheapest for you, then presumably you also have no idea what their cost would be compared to the rest of the market.

Consult a comparison site to find the best deal for you ... and if you still decide to go with Flow, it will also tell you their cheapest option for you. You might even be able to pocket some cashback too! :money:

ydrol2

footyguy wrote: »

Why have you decided to switch to Flow Energy?

If you don't even know which of their tariffs would be the cheapest for you, then presumably you also have no idea what their cost would be compared to the rest of the market.

Consult a comparison site to find the best deal for you ... and if you still decide to go with Flow, it will also tell you their cheapest option for you. You might even be able to pocket some cashback too! :money:

Thanks I already checked a comparison website:

- though I was using my numbers from my old house. Though flow was the best for my old location, when inputting my old consumption against my new location , Among the best for new location are Bulb and Tonik then flow (taking Customer Service and membership of Easy Switch into account).

ydrol2

Hengus wrote: »

I am sure that you know, but when you move in you are on a Deemed Contract with the existing supplier. Call them with your details and meter readings and ask them for the historical EAC(electricity) and AQ(gas) and use these figures as the basis for doing a comparison. Once you have informed the Deemed Supplier that you exist, you are free to switch. The Deemed Supplier will charge you for energy supplier up to the actual dates of transfer.

Thanks. If outgoing vendor was family of 4 with 2 small children, and we are a couple, whose numbers are more relevant to get an idea of annual usage, my old consumption or previous meter reading at the property. I'm not sure how to baseline this. Maybe I'm overthinking it!

ydrol2

razord wrote: »

You need to find out who is the current supplier at the new property. You have to first join them in order to be able to switch.

Thanks, I'm trying to baseline annual consumption to determine who to switch to, as I'm fairly sure staying with British Gas (current supplier) is not the cheaper option for the year.

Previous vendors consumption is for family of 4 + 2 kids.
My consumption is for 2 adults in a different house.

Should I just switch to a variable contract for year 1 before going fixed then next year ? What happens if you go fixed and under-estimate consumption ?

berries

Hengus wrote: »

I am sure that you know, but when you move in you are on a Deemed Contract with the existing supplier. Call them with your details and meter readings and ask them for the historical EAC(electricity) and AQ(gas) and use these figures as the basis for doing a comparison. Once you have informed the Deemed Supplier that you exist, you are free to switch. The Deemed Supplier will charge you for energy supplier up to the actual dates of transfer.

Thank you for this too. I shall be moving soon too . This has helped me out. House that I'm buying is a 3 bedroom semi detached.

System

ydrol2 wrote: »

Thanks, I'm trying to baseline annual consumption to determine who to switch to, as I'm fairly sure staying with British Gas (current supplier) is not the cheaper option for the year.

Previous vendors consumption is for family of 4 + 2 kids.
My consumption is for 2 adults in a different house.

Should I just switch to a variable contract for year 1 before going fixed then next year ? What happens if you go fixed and under-estimate consumption ?

You pay less. The only things that are fixed are time, standing charge and unit price. FWiW, I run my comparisons at 10000kWhs/year for gas and 3000kWhs/year for electricity. I then run them again at +/- 15% just to see if the best deal changes. Standard variable tariffs are much more expensive than fixed.

ydrol2

Hengus wrote: »

You pay less. The only things that are fixed are time, standing charge and unit price..

Ah thank you! That's where I was going completely wrong. Fixed price is for the price per unit not for the price per annum (which would be completely silly now I think about it). - blush! I was thinking like the Mobile phone data tariffs where you can use up to a certain volume then get penalised if you go over. - doh! Never used a fixed price supplier before ..

ydrol2

We've just go the following advice from Bulb:

Dont switch immediately but

1. call vendors incumbant supplier - give readings - let then know you will be switching. This is in case these are any disputes etc. Dont sign up to anything.

2. After a couple of weeks, call Bulb to switch.

They will start projections based on our previous usage in old home, rather than vendors . Though in this case properties are in a similar ball park..