CPM- Parking in my own space...

Z3DD3Z

Hi all,


I have read the sticky but still confused as to my next steps and would appreciate your advice.

Context

Moved into rented accommodation in east London, which came with a car parking space. Both the landlord and Letting agent have confirmed that the parking space is owned by the landlord and is private property. (I have proof via land registry documentation).

my best friend rented this property prior to me and also had parking issues but with supplying proof as above through the appeals process has managed to get the fine waived.

Parking Charge Notice

I received a PCN and followed the guidance on this forum and waited for the notice to keeper letter as advised.

I promptly responded with a template on here stating that the land was private property and they had no right to issue me with a PCN. I provided the documents from the Land Registry.

UK Car Park Management have refused my appeal via letter today, stating that I require an e-permit. I have do not believe this to the case, and my friend, landlord and letting agent have confirmed that I do not need a permit.

There are signs within the car park which state a permit is needed, but why would I need a permit for private land, that is not under their jurisdiction?

UK Car Park Management are registered with the Independent Appeals Service (IAS), should I now appeal on the grounds above i.e. private property and provide the proof or should I ignore this letter?

would really appreciate your advice pls.

Fruitcake

Complain to the DVLA, Trading Standards, your MP, and the Press that these scammers are trying to extort money from you.

An appeal to the IAS is useless as explained in the NEWBIES thread.

The Parking-Prankster has posted several court cases on his blog site where judges have said lease/tenancy agreement trumps any made up parking rules by a third party who cannot add on new conditions that were not in the original agreement with the landowner. Look for the Jopson case on his website.

Half_way

Their seems to be a rash of Own space tickets at the moment, these could be costly for the management companies and the parking companies as it could be claimed that the Data protection act has been breached.
The property/management company is jointly liable for the actions of its agents and if its agents have breached the DPA then they could be in a spot of bother, especially if multiple residents have been ticketed at the same site for parking in their own spaces.
The key to this is what does your lease/rental/AST say?

Another question to ponder, would you accept the imposition of a permit scheme to flush the lavatory in your property between 10pm and 8am, or maybe have the windows open or other such thing?

The_Deep

It is not a fine, it is a con. Tell your management company to call off their dogs or they could end up in court facing a claim for up to £750 for breaching the DPA.

Z3DD3Z

Hi all,

So I have been ignoring the letters for CPM and the Debt Management company following advice on here and from my landlord, but today have recieved a letter from Gladstone Brooks.

The landlord has spoken to the building management company and they have stated that UKCPM have not be instructed to manage the car park.

I am lost and worried about getting a CCJ.

Please help

Zeshan

Z3DD3Z

Apologies, it is Gladstones Solicitors

fisherjim

Z3DD3Z wrote: »

Hi all,

So I have been ignoring the letters for CPM and the Debt Management company following advice on here and from my landlord, but today have recieved a letter from Gladstone Brooks.

The landlord has spoken to the building management company and they have stated that UKCPM have not be instructed to manage the car park.

I am lost and worried about getting a CCJ.

Please help

Zeshan

You can't get a CCJ unless you are taken to court, you lose, then refuse to pay up.

Z3DD3Z

The solicitors firm has threatened to take me to court.

But to be clear, I will only get a CCJ if I lose the case and refuse to pay?

Coupon-mad

Yes, that's right. Hence it is worth fighting.

The landlord has spoken to the building management company and they have stated that UKCPM have not be instructed to manage the car park.

Do you mean UKCPM have NOT, or ''have now''?

Z3DD3Z

Sorry poor English on my part.

The building management company have not sub contracted to UKCPM.

Weird though there signs are everywhere?

The_Deep

Then who has? Write to the MA saying that you plan to take them down.