Electric cars

custardy

Stageshoot wrote: »

Why an odd choice ? 100 to 120 Mile range 20 mins to recharge on a rapid, fuel costs of over 90% less than an ICE.. Ideal taxi. Just look at Blackpool Massive feet of Nissan Leaf Taxis and Nissan 200 EV 7 Seat Van Taxis.

well Im thinking more about charging points. I get the economics,just more about the practicality of fitting charging around work through the shift.

Stageshoot

custardy wrote: »

well Im thinking more about charging points. I get the economics,just more about the practicality of fitting charging around work through the shift.

A lot of the taxi firms have rapid chargers at the offices so the Leafs can charge back at base between Jobs, (Corby and Devon are 2 areas I know from experience doing this). Blackpool has put taxi bays in the town centre car parks with rapid chargers, and TFL are putting them in taxi bays across London,

Most Taxis will need only 1 20mins rapid charge in a 9 or 10 hour working day in towns and cities

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single-post/2018/03/19/Mayor-marks-key-milestone-of-100-rapid-charging-points-across-London-for-electric-vehicles

custardy

Stageshoot wrote: »

A lot of the taxi firms have rapid chargers at the offices so the Leafs can charge back at base between Jobs, (Corby and Devon are 2 areas I know from experience doing this). Blackpool has put taxi bays in the town centre car parks with rapid chargers, and TFL are putting them in taxi bays across London,

Most Taxis will need only 1 20mins rapid charge in a 9 or 10 hour working day in towns and cities

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single-post/2018/03/19/Mayor-marks-key-milestone-of-100-rapid-charging-points-across-London-for-electric-vehicles

ah fair enough. I'll admit if I was in the market for a new car i would heavily consider EV.
Had a look,I dont think Edinburgh is over endowed with charging points?

Stageshoot

custardy wrote: »

ah fair enough. I'll admit if I was in the market for a new car i would heavily consider EV.
Had a look,I dont think Edinburgh is over endowed with charging points?

if you are in Scotland an EV is a great choice as most of the Rapid Chargers are run by Chargeplace Scotland and are free

People make the mistake of looking for chargers where they "Are" what you need to look for are chargers where you "Go" at the end of the range of the car.

For Example I live near Nottingham, so chargers around Nottingham are no real interest to me as I charge overnighrt and start each day with a full charge (in my Renault Zoe thats roughly 200 Miles).

Most of my work days are in London 143 miles from home, so with the Zoe I can drive to London charge up during the day and drive home, so no need to look for charge stops, on other journerys the Motorway network chargers cover it, cant really think of anywhere in England that is more than 50 or so miles from a Motorway Charger. In Scotland its different but CPS have scatterbombed the area with rapids really well even in remote places.

Not having a spot to charge the car at home overnight is the issue for many at the moment, and I honestly would not have gone EV if I could not charge overnight, things need to improve with local charging hubs to encourage those people to move over

My Annual Mileage is 40 to 45k a year all EV,.. and it is just as easy as petrol/Diesel but at a 90% saving.. Would not be possible really without home charging tho..

Stageshoot

@custardy

The ORANGE Ones are the Rapid (Charge in 20mins ones)

custardy

Yes,regarding charging at home. Our drive is very narrow and about the length of an average hatchback making getting in/out and closing gates a tricky maneuverer. Would need to do careful measuring to ensure it was feasible if I went EV.
wont be this year for sure. Old car is running fine and not interested on taking on the extra cost.

Stageshoot

custardy wrote: »

Yes,regarding charging at home. Our drive is very narrow and about the length of an average hatchback making getting in/out and closing gates a tricky maneuverer. Would need to do careful measuring to ensure it was feasible if I went EV.
wont be this year for sure. Old car is running fine and not interested on taking on the extra cost.

Agree there is no point moving till its financially beneficial. (I am not driving an EV to hug polar bears. I am doing it because its really a lot cheaper for me at the moment). I would not advise anyone to move to EV until the figures stack up well into it being a more financially beneficial mode of transport

For me. 3 Days a week in Central London the EV saves £40 in Diesel getting there, £11.50 in Congestion Charge and £45 in Parking so best part of a £100 a day 3 days a week (Plus my other mileage as well).. If they bought out a car that saves more but ran on another fuel source whatever it was I would consider it.

AnotherJoe

custardy wrote: »

Saw a Nissan Leaf taxi the other day. Seemed a strange choice?
Woulds have though limited range and charging times would hit the fuel saving benefit?

Depends where it is. I read a statistic the other day that many taxis especially in cities are only doing 100-150 miles a day in which case saving about 80% on fuel costs plus significantly lowered maintenance costs may well make it a Paying proposition. I would imagine the taxi driver you saw had done the maths and is most likely making more money a day as a result.

NigeWick

almillar wrote: »

What was the outside temperature at the time? You need to test like-for-like.

Summer through Autumn made no real difference. Winter dropped the range by some 20 miles. Yesterday was 27C here and the 40kWh Leaf was still not offering much more than 4 miles per kWh, nowhere near the 5 mark. I am taking it to the dealer next Friday to have it checked as I am sure it should be doing better. A taxi driver on Youtube is getting 4.8 miles per kWh carrying customers.

NigeWick

custardy wrote: »

Saw a Nissan Leaf taxi the other day. Seemed a strange choice?
Woulds have though limited range and charging times would hit the fuel saving benefit?

If you are driving 130 miles a day as at least one taxi driver is, no need to charge until the end of the day. He's now getting 4.8 miles per kWH which equates to about 170 miles with a good safety margin. 260 miles a day? Rapid charge whilst having lunch.