The EU won't be beastly to us because...

adindas

mayonnaise wrote: »

I've been a net contributor to my local gym for many years.
Looking forward to get a share of their assets once I cancel my membership.

Is the gym / health club membership the same as EU ??

The gym owner is setting up a business investing the money, equipment, renting the building, etc.It is built on the basic tenet that the business might be making profit or loosing the whole investment. They need to get loan from lender for facility investment. Is the EU a company like a company who maintain facility in your local gym ? For EU where does the money to built all of the EU facilities / assets come from ??

Also when you talk about the gym membership; If you leave the gym membership you are free to walk away no more contribution or future liability is not it ?? Why they are asking British people to pay 60bn Euros ?

As mentioned by "Fella" when you canceled your gym membership, did you keep paying your Gym membership or pay a lump sum a few times more than your annual membership fee because you have been asked to by the administrators at the time you left. Looking forward to your answer regarding this.

In the GB divorce case, GB is the party who own the money. It is the British taxpayer's money. It is very simple to say. Take all of the assets but also all future liability I will pay nothing. Or if you want to share future liability we will need to share the assets.

The analogy is more closer to a divorce case where during your marriage you are having up the assets in which you are both having it now. When you get divorced you hire a lawyer to make a case who is getting the house, the car, the yacht, penthouse who is taking care the children, etc. But here there are no children to be taken care, they are all adults. as all of the EU countries are still sovereign states.

mayonnaise

Fella wrote: »

When the stories were about the UK paying into the EU for years after Brexit I must have missed your post saying how you looked forward to paying gym fees for years after you cancelled your membership.

The day we lose all the advantages of EU membership, it doesn't make sense for us to still pay membership fees, no.

adindas

mayonnaise wrote: »

The day we lose all the advantages of EU membership, it doesn't make sense for us to still pay membership fees, no.

I think this is the point where you are missing.

They ask GB to pay 60bn euros as part of divorce settlement for future liabilities such as pensions, etc.

That is the reason why your analogy about of health club is seriously flaw.

This sum of 60bn euros is an insult of British negotiator's intelligent.

mayonnaise

adindas wrote: »

I think this is the point where you are missing.

They ask GB to pay 60bn euros as part of divorce settlement for future liabilities such as pensions, etc.

That is the reason why your analogy about of health club is seriously flaw.

This sum of 60bn euros is an insult of British negotiator's intelligent.

So who should be covering the pension liabilities of all British EU personnel since 1973 then? The EU? Are you serious?

adindas

mayonnaise wrote: »

So who should be covering the pension liabilities of all British EU personnel since 1973 then? The EU? Are you serious?

Do you think the MEPs from Great Britain pension is anywhere near 60bn Euros ?

It is very easy to say UK will pay the British MEPs by itself to avoid this pension liability.

It is an insult to people intelligent ...

As mentioned previously before you talk about liability you will need to talk about assets.

adindas

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nato-defence-eu-idUKKBN15V31O

" European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said on Thursday that Europe must not cave in to U.S demands to raise military spending, arguing that development and humanitarian aid could also count as security."

Since when the development and humanitarian aid count as defense budget.
If the argument stands, people could also argue the cost of bringing up children count as defense budget because as the children grow up they could join the army.

Pointless argument .....

Hopefully NATO ceases to exist. The small countries like Luxemburg (where Juncker comes from) or Belgium (Guy Verhofstadt) will need to defend themselves against other countries aggression.

michaels

Perhaps if the US present them with a bill for continuing to provide the nato protectionn commitment it might focus minds on the continent.

Private_Church

mayonnaise wrote: »

I've been a net contributor to my local gym for many years.
Looking forward to get a share of their assets once I cancel my membership.

As a shareholder in the business did you contribute to the cost of building the new extension which houses the sauna,Jacuzzi, colonic irrigation suite and fruit tea bar?.............If so then you will quite rightly be eligible for your share of the business assets.