Gas safety certificate

garybarlowsbeard

Someone is coming to do a gas safety inspection at our house. I suspect the boiler may not pass it due to a known issue regarding a change in regulations about the pressure and/or pipe diameter.

We had a condensing boiler installed years ago but since then I think the regs have changed regarding the acceptable drop in pressure along the pipe (or something like that). The pipes may need upgrading from 15mm. I don't really know what I'm talking about (!) but hopefully a plumber will.

If a gas safety person comes round and sees this issue, will they have to turn my boiler/gas off?

Cheers!

silvercar

Installation regulations apply when a new boiler is installed. It won't apply to a GSC today. What maybe relevant is whether the flue can be inspected.

garybarlowsbeard

So you're saying it shouldn't be a problem? Do you know when the regulations changed as the new boiler was put in my flat about 5-10 years ago (not sure exactly!)

flashg67

Regulations change constantly. For example, my recent check recommended changing the condensate drain to a bigger size as is apparently now required, but it is only a recommendation because it was to spec when installed.

gingernut352000

Our boiler old house was replace d about 10 years ago and we upgrade to 22mm supply. Have your got the boiler installation cert signed by I think in those days a registered corgi installer (pre gas safe) if you have the documentation then all should be fine regulations are not backwardly applied

brightontraveller

The answer to can the gas engineer turn off gas is NO even if gas was blowing out a hole in the pipe at enough speed to dry your hair, You simply need ask them to leave, the gas engineer may inform national grid who may but that’s can take 12 hours....


Why do you need a cert ?

southcoastrgi

Silvercar please don't give incorrect information especially where gas is concerned as I will pull you up on it thank you.

Some incorrect info on this thread inc some from our new board guide.

A Gas safety cert inspection should check a number of things inc the working gas pressure at the meter & boiler, the boiler will have a min Gas pressure the boiler manu says their boiler can operate at safely, if your gas pressure is lower than this they can At Risk it, some regs are backward applied

southcoastrgi

brightontraveller wrote: »

The answer to can the gas engineer turn off gas is NO even if gas was blowing out a hole in the pipe at enough speed to dry your hair, You simply need ask them to leave, the gas engineer may inform national grid who may but that’s can take 12 hours....

In an ID situ if the gas responsible person refuses to let the engineer do their job & cap the gas they will phone grid who will attend within 2 hours & will cap it if necessary

brightontraveller

southcoastrgi wrote: »

In an ID situ if the gas responsible person refuses to let the engineer do their job & cap the gas they will phone grid who will attend within 2 hours & will cap it if necessary

You can still refuse them access to your land/building ,they alone cannot force there way in much as they would love the power to so, They can however Cap/disconnect supply to the building from somewhere they are allowed access, apply for a warrant etc, I have no objection to disconnecting, making safe the supply etc if its dangerous Only to those less than scrupulous GAS engineers that over exaggerate there powers and use the threat of loss of supply to encourage householder to replace a appliance, boiler, cooker etc a tactic some firms most defiantly use....

silvercar

southcoastrgi wrote: »

Silvercar please don't give incorrect information especially where gas is concerned as I will pull you up on it thank you.

Some incorrect info on this thread inc some from our new board guide.

A Gas safety cert inspection should check a number of things inc the working gas pressure at the meter & boiler, the boiler will have a min Gas pressure the boiler manu says their boiler can operate at safely, if your gas pressure is lower than this they can At Risk it, some regs are backward applied

Happy to take advice from the experts.

A question to the bit in bold, would the installation sign off have confirmed that the boiler is operating at the correct pressure?

southcoastrgi

You are incorrect along with the police National Grid have right of entry to your property if they believe lives maybe at risk, if you refuse them entry then the police can & will force entry they don't need a warrant