Space Saver Wheels

whiskywhisky

Hi

I recently bought a Toyota Auris Estate and as is common nowadays no spare wheel and only the sealant etc. I drive a lot of miles and also drive a lot late evenings, therefore I would like a space saver wheel for emergencies.

I phoned Toyota and was quoted £180, this inc vat and a kit.

I have been looking on ebay and for a while and cannot find any near me or listings advertised that they came off a Auris. All the listings state exactly what car and model they came off.

There are many for sale for other cars and located miles away but will post and all in will be around £50. This may be a silly question, but the space saver is advertised for another car but is the same size (i.e 15") and has the same number of studs (5) will this still fit? are the 5 studs on wheels universal and fit all cars with 5 studs?

Any help would be gratefully received.

DUTR

Technically yes it should fit, out of interest though, where will you put the full size wheel if you have to use the space saver?

whiskywhisky

The car is an estate and will put the full size in the boot until the repair or renew the following day.

antenna

NO they can be 5 stud and for example 16" but they are mostly all different for different cars.......google "car wheel sizes" or something similar

gilbert_and_sullivan

No they won't all fit, there are many wheel fitment sites have a google for some.

You might find space savers from other Toyotas to be the same fitments, and other Japanese makes might be interchangeable too.

You need the correct PCD (pitch circle diameter) which is the circle described running through the center of the bolt holes, the correct spigot (the hole in the centre) which is in 99% of cases a sliding fit on the hub, and there might be offset differences or in some rare cases (probably not with an Auris) clearance problems with front brake calipers.

Up to a point the front calipers arn't a problem because you should really only fit a space saver on the rear, but in the pouring rain in the dark on the hard shoulder of a busy motorway at peak periods i can't see anyone with an ounce of sense messing about swapping front to rear.

Also a 16" space saver might be nearer in size to your present wheels, a tyre size calculator will tell you.

If you consult the wheel fitment guide and for example find a Yaris/Avensis/Daihatsu/Civic/Imprezza spare to be compatible within reasonable distance, there's nothing to stop you going and checking it fits there and then, in most cases a cash purchase would be welcome by most sellers if only to save paypal fees and the bother of posting it.

antenna

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

No they won't all fit, there are many wheel fitment sites have a google for some.

You might find space savers from other Toyotas to be the same fitments, and other Japanese makes might be interchangeable too.

You need the correct PCD (pitch circle diameter) which is the circle described running through the center of the bolt holes, the correct spigot (the hole in the centre) which is in 99% of cases a sliding fit on the hub, and there might be offset differences or in some rare cases (probably not with an Auris) clearance problems with front brake calipers.



Up to a point the front calipers arn't a problem because you should really only fit a space saver on the rear, but in the pouring rain in the dark on the hard shoulder of a busy motorway at peak periods i can't see anyone with an ounce of sense messing about swapping front to rear.

Also a 16" space saver might be nearer in size to your present wheels, a tyre size calculator will tell you.

If you consult the wheel fitment guide and for example find a Yaris/Avensis/Daihatsu/Civic/Imprezza spare to be compatible within reasonable distance, there's nothing to stop you going and checking it fits there and then, in most cases a cash purchase would be welcome by most sellers if only to save paypal fees and the bother of posting it.

Great answer.....but to be fair,you took the words right out of my mouth :beer:

gilbert_and_sullivan

One other thing, check your wheelbolts are suitable for the space saver.
Unless the bolt holes are collared (large washer like shims welded in) to make them as thick as the alloy wheel, its possible the bolts will go through too far and possibly foul the hub casting, or (if you have rear drum brakes, and some rear disc brakes have drum parking brakes) could foul the brake shoes.
There are also two types of bolt head seat, curved and tapered.

If you buy a space saver it would make sense to fit it and bolt it in place then spin it gently by hand to make sure all is well, you do not want to find this problem or any others on said hard shoulder or in the middle of nowhere.

whiskywhisky

Thanks for the responses....looks like there is much more into this.

wgl2014

Also consider a full size spare. For example http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/121876878710
Space saver is fine for a short distance and low speed but a proper spare means you can continue on your journey and get the damaged tyre repaired at your leisure and likely for a better price.
As mentioned earlier a steel wheel may need different wheel bolts

antenna

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

One other thing, check your wheelbolts are suitable for the space saver.
Unless the bolt holes are collared (large washer like shims welded in) to make them as thick as the alloy wheel, its possible the bolts will go through too far and possibly foul the hub casting, or (if you have rear drum brakes, and some rear disc brakes have drum parking brakes) could foul the brake shoes.
There are also two types of bolt head seat, curved and tapered.

If you buy a space saver it would make sense to fit it and bolt it in place then spin it gently by hand to make sure all is well, you do not want to find this problem or any others on said hard shoulder or in the middle of nowhere.

I was wondering if you would have noticed that.

gilbert_and_sullivan

wgl2014 wrote: »

Also consider a full size spare. For example http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/121876878710
Space saver is fine for a short distance and low speed but a proper spare means you can continue on your journey and get the damaged tyre repaired at your leisure and likely for a better price.
As mentioned earlier a steel wheel may need different wheel bolts

I too would rather a full size spare, but i wonder if the Auris has room underfloor for a space saver only, hence the OP's questions, don't know because i've never even looked inside a new shape Auris...though was pleased to see they didn't hamper it with an utterly pointless electric parking brake.

I wonder (just out of interest, no reason to think the OP has one) also if the hybrid has room for a spare, or is every spare inch devoted to batteries.