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Death in family and car not transferred

I hope someone can help.

A work colleague's father died last year and his car was then transferred to his daughter in laws name. At the time she didn't want it so my work colleague bought the car with the intention that his own daughter would use it to learn in.

He went and collected the car and it has been sat on his drive ever since.

He has just realised that the V5 has never been updated with new keeper details and although the car is taxed and MOT'd it hasn't been insured for 6 months and was never SORN'd.

He wants to know what the best way to deal with this is as the car is actually his daughters.
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  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    I hope someone can help.

    A work colleague's father died last year and his car was then transferred to his daughter in laws name. At the time she didn't want it so my work colleague bought the car with the intention that his own daughter would use it to learn in.

    He went and collected the car and it has been sat on his drive ever since.

    He has just realised that the V5 has never been updated with new keeper details and although the car is taxed and MOT'd it hasn't been insured for 6 months and was never SORN'd.

    He wants to know what the best way to deal with this is as the car is actually his daughters.


    It wont be taxed, as when it transfers the tax doesn't, but not sure what your asking, just fill in the V5 with the new keeper details and send it off
  • Car_54
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    It wont be taxed, as when it transfers the tax doesn't, but not sure what your asking, just fill in the V5 with the new keeper details and send it off

    But it hasn't been transferred yet!

    If it is still taxed, it will be in the former owner's name. When the OP sends off the new keeper's details any remaining tax will be refunded to the former owner.

    Then the OP needs to wither tax and insure it, or SORN it, ASAP.
  • glentoran99
    glentoran99 Posts: 5,821 Forumite
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    But it hasn't been transferred yet!

    If it is still taxed, it will be in the former owner's name. When the OP sends off the new keeper's details any remaining tax will be refunded to the former owner.

    Then the OP needs to wither tax and insure it, or SORN it, ASAP.

    When it transferred to the deceaseds daughter it would have ended
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    If the car is uninsured whoever is the registered keeper will be getting in trouble/ fined.

    Unless SORN you must insure even if it's off the road
  • Quentin wrote: »
    If the car is uninsured whoever is the registered keeper will be getting in trouble/ fined.

    Unless SORN you must insure even if it's off the road

    Thats what I thought.

    The new keeper will receive 2 fines as I understand, one for not SORNing and another for no insurance
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    There's no fine for not sorning

    If it's not taxed then whoever is the registered keeper will be fined for that though
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 33,055 Forumite
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    edited 19 January 2017 at 8:56AM
    I hope someone can help.

    A work colleague's father died last year and his car was then transferred to his daughter in laws name. At the time she didn't want it so my work colleague bought the car with the intention that his own daughter would use it to learn in.

    He went and collected the car and it has been sat on his drive ever since.

    He has just realised that the V5 has never been updated with new keeper details and although the car is taxed and MOT'd it hasn't been insured for 6 months and was never SORN'd.

    He wants to know what the best way to deal with this is as the car is actually his daughters.
    Which statement is correct ?
    Was the V5 sent off and not received back or was the V5 never sent off ?
    How long ago did he die ?
  • Quentin wrote: »
    There's no fine for not sorning

    If it's not taxed then whoever is the registered keeper will be fined for that though

    From GOV.uk

    You must insure and tax your vehicle if you don’t have a SORN. If you don’t, you’ll automatically be fined £80 for not having a SORN. There’s also a fine for having an uninsured vehicle.

    The vehicle is taxed as the ownership wasn't transferred but no insurance.

    The stupid thing is I told him what to do 6 months ago
  • The only solution is to declare SORN now and see how it pans out.

    Get whoever has the V5c to do it.

    Then send off the V5c with change of owner.

    It might slip through the system, it might not, but they can cross that bridge when/if they come to it.
  • AdrianC
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    Quentin wrote: »
    There's no fine for not sorning
    There certainly is...

    If it was taxed after being transferred to the daughter's name, then there'll be a fine under the continuous insurance rules.

    If it wasn't taxed after the transfer, then there'll be a fine because it's currently unlicenced.

    If it's currently registered in the daughter's name, then she's the one on the hook. BUT she can easily say "It was transferred to <buyer> on this date - I sent the V5C in.", with no legal requirement to chase if the confirmation is not received. It was her legal responsibility to transfer the keepership, but the buyer is a muppet for not noticing that he hadn't had a V5C, and not SORNing it himself.
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