Landlord wants to evict me and move back in!

Arleen

He can move to a hotel for a week or two and look for short term tenancy from a hotel room. Been there, done that, it works and not as pricy if you can settle for reasonable b&b.

But I do like his change of tone, that is now a landlord you can actually work with. I would probably either ask for more cash, or put a condition on this that it will only go through if I can find a proper place in that timeframe. The second option is obviously awful for, well, everyone, but it is an option.

itchyfeet123

I would ask for:
1) the greater of £400/ all move in +moving fees for you next place
2) one month's rent
3) the right to end the tenancy for free as soon as you find somewhere suitable, even if that's next week.
4) storage plus extra compensation/hotel reimbursement if you can't find somewhere suitable in time.

So basically what they're offering but with more flexibility for you.

Sure, you probably *could* get more. But I don't think there's any reason to try and turn this circumstance into a windfall.

Guest101

MrNiceGuy_007 wrote: »

I received the below on Monday. Quite surprised about LL saying damages to garden. We are only talking a small section of grass. The property was inspected by myself when my friend lived there and I can confirm the oven & fridge was clean! The garage structure was a wooden rack which has enhanced the storage space.

Not that this has anything to do with our tenancy.

# LL Email 1

I have had time to reflect and I understand your need for security. However, we desperately need our home back and we are in a difficult position living abroad and the arrival of a new baby in April with no home for her. As way of compensation we are prepared to offer one months rent plus £400 removals for the property to be vacated by the end of March. This gives you plenty of time to move out and find somewhere else. We would have always been fine with three months notice from yourselves and if you discuss with your friends we were very flexible landlords. We refunded the whole deposit despite damage to our garden and structures erected in our garage without our permission. And the cooker and fridge being left in a terrible state. We will definitely not be renting it out from August anyway so you will have to move then. We are just trying to do the right thing and would be so grateful if you would consider this.
I await your advices.

# Received this one today as I have not responded.

Further to my most recent email I need a response please by the end of the week as this is becoming rather urgent with the baby arriving soon. Hope you feel we have made a generous offer in the circumstances and are able to accept it, if not, we obviously will have a difficult situation on our return. Hope to hear from you by the end of the week.

Someone's finally taken actual legal advice!!

Issues:

1. Your friends tenancy is irrelevant, you could pass on that email if it is libellous. I wouldn't, but each there own.
2. £400 would maybe cover referencing. And no mention of your deposit too.
3. If you stay, they definitely will be renting out the property in august.

However you could go for:
Rent free until you move out.
£400 for fees etc
+ deposit returned now, in advance

FBaby

Why would they agree to rent free until they move out as that is leaving OP staying until August rent free by claiming he hasn't found anywhere to move. There has to be a deadline to make it worth to the LL.

I think itchyfeet is the most reasonable although with a deadline with number 4 as again suggestion otherwise is that LL could end up paying hotel for many months to come if OP discovers nice hotel accommodation to his taste.

Personally I don't get the LL. He seems to struggle to understand the concept of being a LL and making it personal. He is trying to evidence that he is flexible and therfore think others should be too but why would OP cares that he was nice to his old tenant even if friends and why going on about this pregnancy which is irrelevant to the situation. If I were him I would look at the renting short term accommodation maybe holiday home. It sounds that this would end up cheaper for his family and at least this way he'd be in control.

Ozzuk

Their sense of entitlement, putting their needs over yours when it is their circumstances that have changed would get my back up and I'd probably sit on my reply for a while.

However, it really depends how much of an inconvenience this is for you, taking the emotion out of it reaching a comprise with an element of compensation is the most sensible approach as you'd have to move in August anyway.

I'd certainly go for the 'no notice if I find somewhere' clause - what will be interesting is if the LL accepts that, I'd put money on it they want their cake and to eat it, maximum income...

Guest101

FBaby wrote: »

Why would they agree to rent free until they move out as that is leaving OP staying until August rent free by claiming he hasn't found anywhere to move. There has to be a deadline to make it worth to the LL.

I think itchyfeet is the most reasonable although with a deadline with number 4 as again suggestion otherwise is that LL could end up paying hotel for many months to come if OP discovers nice hotel accommodation to his taste.

Personally I don't get the LL. He seems to struggle to understand the concept of being a LL and making it personal. He is trying to evidence that he is flexible and therfore think others should be too but why would OP cares that he was nice to his old tenant even if friends and why going on about this pregnancy which is irrelevant to the situation. If I were him I would look at the renting short term accommodation maybe holiday home. It sounds that this would end up cheaper for his family and at least this way he'd be in control.

Well obviously it would be until end of March.
But I can see I wasn't being clear.

Guest101

People are suggesting the 'no notice' clause. The OP can't give notice, it's a fixed term.

the OP tells the LL they've found somewhere and agree the last date. If the LL doesn't agree then just stay put

MrNiceGuy_007

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Did you hear back properly from HMRC? That seems like relevant information.

Letter from HMRC

DeborahSt

MrNiceGuy_007 wrote: »

Yes but we did not erect the structure or damage the grass, so why does this have anything to do with us? Everything stated in that email was from previous tenants

Think the LL was using this as an example as how reasonable they feel they are..

Although, these were the previously hailed "fantastic" tenants, were they not?

I might have missed it, but was there a response regarding where your deposit is being held? is it protected?

itchyfeet123

Guest101 wrote: »

People are suggesting the 'no notice' clause. The OP can't give notice, it's a fixed term.

the OP tells the LL they've found somewhere and agree the last date. If the LL doesn't agree then just stay put

Call it what you want, but the idea is to get the LL to agree *in advance* that if the OP happens to find somewhere suitable sooner than expected, the LL will agree to an early surrender with no further rent obligation from whatever date is convenient for the OP. I guess the OP could just wait until they find somewhere and then tell the LL, but I think at that stage it may be harder to get the LL to agree that rent stops on OP's moving day rather than LL's.