University fees.

Jackieboy

Sharon87 wrote: »

Who says Media degrees don't lead anywhere? I done a Media with TV Production course, now I work in TV.

Where as English - what do you do with a BA in English?

Anyway university isn't just about leading to jobs, it's about education and life experience. I do agree the fees are ridiculous and I don't see how they can justify 9k a year when it was a lot less when I went.

Well, you might be able to write correct English, for a start!

takman

Cakeguts wrote: »

Its a vent to the people who want to know.

I seem to always be having to stick up for the "little people" the ones that people don't seem to think matter. University courses these days don't just cater for people who are "clever" academically and sometimes you need to be clever to work through the information that universities produce about their courses. Sentences like this course "could" lead to x can be read by someone who is not clever as "will" lead to. The first time they realise that they should have read "could" as "doesn't except once in a blue moon" is when they find that their "career" is going to consist of clearing the tables in a supermarket cafe. A course at a university like this I think should cost less to study because the way the information is worded is misleading and it is misleading because it they wrote that the course leads to a "career" clearing tables in a supermarket but you will be charged the same for it as someone who will have a career as an engineer or solicitor no one would pay for it unless it was cheaper.

The students are the ones who should be choosing the courses based on what they want to do with them. If they want a job they should be doing some research to see what courses they should be doing and how likely they are to lead to a job.

But choosing the wrong course doesn't mean your only option is a non skilled job such as cleaning tables. There are plenty of careers that you can work your way up in with no qualifications. So if someone leaves university with a degree and the best job they can find is cleaning tables then it's probably more likely to be the person who is the problem and not the course!.

I say this as someone who actually has a career in Engineering which when I started I had no engineering qualifications or experience at all. I then got to the point where my employer paid for me to get the qualifications. So if someone is not sure about a course at university they have the option to not do a qualification at all!.

meer53

There will be people with Maths degrees who end up working in MacDonalds and people with a degree in Knitting who end up as CEO of a Multinational company. It's up to the person to do something with their qualification, what difference will changing the cost of a course make ?

force_ten

what about a harry potter degree

EDUC2381: HARRY POTTER AND THE AGE OF ILLUSION

is that a watered down degree course ?

Hermia

StaffieTerrier wrote: »

No University course can say for sure that completing it will lead to a job is specific area. I have a science degree and had fight hard to work in science after graduation. There's countless science graduates, with degrees from various institutions, fighting for limited jobs. Does that mean all science degrees should cost the students less, despite the courses being expensive to run due to the practical content?

I agree. I know several people who started a particular degree because the employment prospects in that field were good, but by the time they graduated they had changed.

I don't know who would be able to judge the worth of a degree. I did my first degree at a former poly with a bad reputation, but the course I did was actually very well regarded in the field and many of my former classmates have great careers. How would some sort of independent university fee assessor judge that course? Unless they are going to do lots of serious research into every field they are likely to make wrong judgements.

Sharon87

Jackieboy wrote: »

Well, you might be able to write correct English, for a start!

I had to write English correctly for my coursework, but with a bit of a hangover it can go downhill...

edit: I assume no one's seen Avenue Q ' What do you do with a BA in English' is a song from that musical...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6ksA0QyE4

stephenliverpool1

They were the good old days, where you had polys and universities. I went to a good University and was very proud of what I achieved. It did not cost me a lot of money with the grant system.

Nowadays, the whole system is discredited. Degrees are a lot easier (proven by employer's feedback and the number of people getting 1st class degrees as told in the Telegraph today). The only good thing is that student quite rightly are having to pay tuition fees for their worthless degrees.

I always remember at my last employer, when a young lady took exception at a manager by stating 'actually I got a 1st class degree'. Me and another senior employee just looked at each other and shook our heads.

She was not that bright at her job and we both knew that if she took her degree 20 years ago, there is no way she would have got a 1st class degree.

I have a lot ot time for Tony Blair but my one big criticism of him is how he weakened the educational system; in particular by combining unis and polys together.

Mrs_Ryan

worried_jim wrote: »

I agree. The proper subjects, maths, physics and chemistry should be free. Charge what you want for the muppet courses.

Medicine and law are muppet courses?! :eek:
I hope you never get ill or you might find yourself being treated by Kermit in a white coat :rotfl:

Maybe I shouldn't admit I'm studying for a BA in English and there is plenty you can do with it. Teaching/lecturing (my chosen career) journalism, publishing, writing.... My niece is studying for one of those Media/film study type degrees. She's a bright girl but I have no idea what she will do with it. I'm studying with the Open University where it is harder to get a high mark as the grade boundaries are higher; I'm on course for a 2:1 and it's blinking hard work- as it should be. I get a little bit annoyed when people say it's easy- maybe it is if you're some kind of genius but it's certainly not easy to me.

Cakeguts

force_ten wrote: »

what about a harry potter degree

EDUC2381: HARRY POTTER AND THE AGE OF ILLUSION

is that a watered down degree course ?

Does that mean that you would have to believe that Harry Potter is a real person? No mention of the author?

Cakeguts

Mrs_Ryan wrote: »

Medicine and law are muppet courses?! :eek:
I hope you never get ill or you might find yourself being treated by Kermit in a white coat :rotfl:

Maybe I shouldn't admit I'm studying for a BA in English and there is plenty you can do with it. Teaching/lecturing (my chosen career) journalism, publishing, writing.... My niece is studying for one of those Media/film study type degrees. She's a bright girl but I have no idea what she will do with it. I'm studying with the Open University where it is harder to get a high mark as the grade boundaries are higher; I'm on course for a 2:1 and it's blinking hard work- as it should be. I get a little bit annoyed when people say it's easy- maybe it is if you're some kind of genius but it's certainly not easy to me.

Open University courses are know to be more difficult not only because as you say the grade boundaries are higher but also because you have to organise your own study time.