University fees.

worried_jim

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Makes sense, but who defines muppet?

Someone with a maths, physics or chemistry degree. Let's start at the media studies courses and work our way up.;)

gt568

meer53 wrote: »

Whats a "watered down course" ?

Art, politics, media studies, and philosophy are good starters for 10.

Bogalot

gt568 wrote: »

Art, politics, media studies, and philosophy are good starters for 10.

PPE is certainly not a watered down degree, nor do its students have poor prospects!

Sharon87

Who says Media degrees don't lead anywhere? I done a Media with TV Production course, now I work in TV.

Where as English - what do you do with a BA in English?

Anyway university isn't just about leading to jobs, it's about education and life experience. I do agree the fees are ridiculous and I don't see how they can justify 9k a year when it was a lot less when I went.

daytona0

worried_jim wrote: »

Someone with a maths, physics or chemistry degree. Let's start at the media studies courses and work our way up.;)

You never answered my question as to whether you hold a maths, physics or chemistry degree....

takman

Cakeguts wrote: »

I wasn't really trying to point out the difference in types of courses what I was trying to point out was that although all degree courses cost the same some lead to more opportunities. Some lead nowhere. Courses that lead nowhere should really cost less than courses that lead to a lot of opportunities because you actually get less for your money from a course that leads nowhere.

Well if a student chooses a course that leads them nowhere and they don't earn much money then they won't ever have to pay back the student loan so get the course and expenses free!.

Cakeguts

takman wrote: »

Well if a student chooses a course that leads them nowhere and they don't earn much money then they won't ever have to pay back the student loan so get the course and expenses free!.

Its a vent to the people who want to know.

I seem to always be having to stick up for the "little people" the ones that people don't seem to think matter. University courses these days don't just cater for people who are "clever" academically and sometimes you need to be clever to work through the information that universities produce about their courses. Sentences like this course "could" lead to x can be read by someone who is not clever as "will" lead to. The first time they realise that they should have read "could" as "doesn't except once in a blue moon" is when they find that their "career" is going to consist of clearing the tables in a supermarket cafe. A course at a university like this I think should cost less to study because the way the information is worded is misleading and it is misleading because it they wrote that the course leads to a "career" clearing tables in a supermarket but you will be charged the same for it as someone who will have a career as an engineer or solicitor no one would pay for it unless it was cheaper.

agrinnall

Sharon87 wrote: »

Who says Media degrees don't lead anywhere? I done a Media with TV Production course, now I work in TV.

Where as English - what do you do with a BA in English?

Perhaps if you had a BA in English you might be able to write a properly constructed sentence. It's "I did" not "I done". Although the fact that you now work in TV, where basic skills seem to be beyond the requirements of the job, doesn't surprise me.

lincroft1710

Sharon87 wrote: »

Who says Media degrees don't lead anywhere? I done a Media with TV Production course, now I work in TV.

Where as English - what do you do with a BA in English?

agrinnall wrote: »

Perhaps if you had a BA in English you might be able to write a properly constructed sentence. It's "I did" not "I done". Although the fact that you now work in TV, where basic skills seem to be beyond the requirements of the job, doesn't surprise me.

Also "whereas" not "where as"

StaffieTerrier

Cakeguts wrote: »

Its a vent to the people who want to know.

I seem to always be having to stick up for the "little people" the ones that people don't seem to think matter. University courses these days don't just cater for people who are "clever" academically and sometimes you need to be clever to work through the information that universities produce about their courses. Sentences like this course "could" lead to x can be read by someone who is not clever as "will" lead to. The first time they realise that they should have read "could" as "doesn't except once in a blue moon" is when they find that their "career" is going to consist of clearing the tables in a supermarket cafe. A course at a university like this I think should cost less to study because the way the information is worded is misleading and it is misleading because it they wrote that the course leads to a "career" clearing tables in a supermarket but you will be charged the same for it as someone who will have a career as an engineer or solicitor no one would pay for it unless it was cheaper.

No University course can say for sure that completing it will lead to a job is specific area. I have a science degree and had fight hard to work in science after graduation. There's countless science graduates, with degrees from various institutions, fighting for limited jobs. Does that mean all science degrees should cost the students less, despite the courses being expensive to run due to the practical content?