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TESCOBABE56

theartfullodger wrote: »

MOST people in this country get some sort of benefit: CB, PiP, DLA, CTC, WTC, HB, Pension, JSA, ESA, Sovereign grant etc etc etc

Really? "Most" people ?

If that is true, no wonder we are screwed.

I dont get any.

borkid

TESCOBABE56 wrote: »

Really? "Most" people ?

If that is true, no wonder we are screwed.

I dont get any.

At some point in their life most will if you count SP as a benefit. It's only the past couple of years I've claimed SP before that for many years just CB but I have a works pension which gets taxed so am still paying in.

If you don't have children and aren't into your 60s and have a good job and are well then you'll get nothing just pay into the system for others.

rockingbilly

borkid wrote: »

If you don't have children and aren't into your 60s and have a good job and are well then you'll get nothing just pay into the system for others.

I had no problem doing that for many, many years. However it gets on my wick that when I want to get something back I have to jump through so many hoops to prove entitlement and even then the odds are against me being awarded anything.

I know that we have to have a system in place to defeat those who would want to see the benefit system as their meal ticket for life, but come on do we really have to go through so much stress and anxiety when we have proved time and time again that there is a genuine entitlement based on genuine need?

And having to give back to the government 20% of my State Pension every year, a pension that I have funded out of the tax and national insurance that was compulsory taken out of my salary? The reason given with a straight face was that I opted to save and pay into a private pension out of my salary instead of spending it on wine women cars.

nannytone_2

rockingbilly wrote: »

I had no problem doing that for many, many years. However it gets on my wick that when I want to get something back I have to jump through so many hoops to prove entitlement and even then the odds are against me being awarded anything.

I know that we have to have a system in place to defeat those who would want to see the benefit system as their meal ticket for life, but come on do we really have to go through so much stress and anxiety when we have proved time and time again that there is a genuine entitlement based on genuine need?

And having to give back to the government 20% of my State Pension every year, a pension that I have funded out of the tax and national insurance that was compulsory taken out of my salary? The reason given with a straight face was that I opted to save and pay into a private pension out of my salary instead of spending it on wine women cars.

i do understand what you are saying.
i receive ESA and DLA because i am blind.
it is impossible for me to regain my sight but i accept that in order to receive the help i do, then i need to do what is required of me.

i need the benefit and so i do

rockingbilly

nannytone wrote: »

i do understand what you are saying.
i receive ESA and DLA because i am blind.
it is impossible for me to regain my sight but i accept that in order to receive the help i do, then i need to do what is required of me.

i need the benefit and so i do

But the big question is it right or even fair for you to continually have to prove entitlement every few years or every time time that the government comes up with a new benefit or move the goalposts with the sole intention of reducing the amount that is paid out?

nannytone_2

rockingbilly wrote: »

But the big question is it right or even fair for you to continually have to prove entitlement every few years or every time time that the government comes up with a new benefit or move the goalposts with the sole intention of reducing the amount that is paid out?

one of the only certainties of the welfare state is that entitlement can change and the rules get tightened.

speaking only for myself, i am willing to put up with whatever rules they may decide to adopt because ..
i have no income of my own
i need other peoples money in order to live

i think the re assessments under PIP are necessary.
maybe not yearly, but i don't see a problem with 5 yearly.

i started claiming DLA in 1996 and have NEVER been re assessed.

thats 20 years of them just 'giving' me money.
i never had a medical and they never contacted my doctor.
at the time there was a space on the form that the GP had to sign to confirm that what was written on the form was true.

how many doctors do you think actually read the form?
mine didn't. he just signed it and gave it back to me!

TESCOBABE56

borkid wrote: »

If you don't have children and aren't into your 60s and have a good job and are well then you'll get nothing just pay into the system for others.

Children are grown up, I'm 61 unemployed at 50, I was entitled to nothing, and I'm still paying in.

I pay full council tax, still have a mortgage, but being a silly billy, I saved.

My SRP is six years away it is £120, less tax.

PHILANTHROPIST

savile wrote: »

yes it is, stuff that is never going to change missing limbs, blind etc should have say 5 year checks if only to see if things have got worse other help could be provided. But any body with mental health other me whatever other "invisible illness" they have made up next should be checked every 3 months, and asked what treatment plan they have or what they are doing to get better and back to work, people should not fester on benefits and have bad days only on the days it matters.

Ignore - do not feed the troll

borkid

Savile wrote: »

Yes it is, Stuff that is NEVER going to change missing limbs, Blind etc should have say 5 year checks if only to see if things have got worse other help could be provided. But any body with mental health other ME whatever other "invisible illness" they have made up next should be checked every 3 months, and asked what treatment plan they have or what they are doing to get better and back to work, people should not fester on benefits and have bad days only on the days it matters.

That is so offensive. I doubt you know anyone with moderate to severe ME. I wish there was a treatment plan that gave a cure. There is none. Actually if you know anything about ME it is relatively easy to see the signs if you are with someone for a while.

borkid

TESCOBABE56 wrote: »

Children are grown up, I'm 61 unemployed at 50, I was entitled to nothing, and I'm still paying in.

I pay full council tax, still have a mortgage, but being a silly billy, I saved.

My SRP is six years away it is £120, less tax.

Sorry I was just pointing out that most people at some point in life will claim some type of benefit as you were quering that 'most' claimed benefits. You are the same as I was just a couple of years ago.