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NTC Parking Charge Notice - advice please

Hannah_17
Hannah_17 Posts: 8 Forumite
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edited 8 January 2017 at 2:49AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hello to all

The keeper returned to thecar today to find a Parking charge notice on the drivers door window and is looking for some advice ...

The keeper parked outside some shops where there are signs displayed by Norwich Traffic control (NTC), the signs say 'these parking spaces are for the use of customers whilst using this parade of shops 1 hour maximum stay ... parking outside of this regulation will result in the driver agreeing to paying a parking charge of £100 reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days'. The keeper went in to 1 of the shops and made a purchase, The keeper then went off to somewhere across the road and returned approx. 1 hour later to find a PCN on the car.

A few problems with the ticket; firstly it was written only 30 mins after arrival, secondly it does not state when the car was first seen (just a says n/a) and thirdly it lists the car as being silver when it is in fact light blue. According to the ticket the reason for issue is parking in a restricted area. Unfortunately The keeper did not get a receipt from the shop visited although if there is cctv then they would be on it.

The keeper has checked and the NTC is listed with the IPC. The keeper Is unsure of what to do and doesn't want to be lumbered with hefty fines and feels the charge is unfair. Appeal or pay? The ticket says that appeals should be received within 21 days.

Any advice is gratefully received

Thank you
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  • Redx
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    its a civil matter so nobody will be "fined" and there are no "regulations" , just rules dreamt up by NTC

    you have a speculative invoice , nothing more

    read the IPC advice in the NEWBIES sticky thread and send the IPC temp;ate to the PPC , around DAY 19

    if they fail to cancel , you IGNORE for 6 years unless they try a court case (an MCOL from Northampton)

    and DO NOT REVEAL WHO WAS DRIVING - NO ADMISSIONS AT ALL
  • Should I mention that the timings don't add up or should I just go with the template which I notice only asks questions and does not give any reasonings to the company.
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 8 January 2017 at 1:49AM
    Do as advised by Redx. Do not mention who was driving.

    In addition, edit your post to remove details about who did what. Parking scammers read these fora, so only mention The Driver and The Keeper who are two different people as far as we are concerned. Also remove the precise times that will identify this alleged incident.
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  • Fruitcake
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    Hannah_17 wrote: »
    Should I mention that the timings don't add up or should I just go with the template which I notice only asks questions and does not give any reasonings to the company.

    The Keeper follows the tried and tested advice given, not give the scammers more information than is necessary.
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    I don't have a sister. :D
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  • fisherjim
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    A few problems with the ticket; firstly it was written only 30 mins after arrival, secondly it does not state when the car was first seen (just a says n/a) and thirdly it lists the car as being silver when it is in fact light blue. According to the ticket the reason for issue is parking in a restricted area. Unfortunately The keeper did not get a receipt from the shop visited although if there is cctv then they would be on it.

    Forget all that, they are scammers not officials as stated before.
    The tame parking Muppet or even self ticketer would have been hiding waiting for the driver to leave site, then slapped the charge on and notched up another commission point on their list.

    Who do you think will trawl through CCTV records for you, if they still exist ,when no crime has been committed?

    Follow the advice on here to the letter and you need not pay these despicable idiots a penny.
  • Umkomaas
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    Who do you think will trawl through CCTV records for you, if they still exist ,when no crime has been committed?
    Precisely.

    Why do people think that anyone is going to spend (potentially) hours fast forwarding, pausing, rewinding and squinting at grainy CCTV images looking for them? Reality check!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Redx
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    edited 8 January 2017 at 11:45PM
    it is thought that they deliberately put false or incorrect information on these tickets in order to provoke an immediate and angry reaction , that means they get the drivers details asap (for free) and that the drivers give away information best left unsaid

    DONT FALL FOR IT
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    If you appeal to the PPC. and they reject it, you can, If you wish appeal to the highly partial adjudicators at the I.A.S., who will probably find for their pay masters. If they find against you ignore for six years, unless you receive a court claim.

    IMO the latter is unlikely as a judge is likely to quickly sniff out their scam and find for you.

    If you move house inform them as, if you do not, you might get a CCJ without knowing anything about it.
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  • It's all quite stressful. They're such horrid people. Just bullies and I hate to think of more vulnerable people out there who just cave in to these awful people.
  • It's the possibility of court that really worries the keeper who is a squeaky clean individual
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