Speeding ticket received after 14 days

Booga315

Hi all,
Today (January 4th, 2017) I received a copy of a speeding ticket (NIP) from the police for an alleged incident of speeding that happened in mid November 2016, asking for the name and address of the driver. The covering letter says they have not received a satisfactory response however this is the first correspondence I have received from them regarding this incident, if any other letters were sent to me I have not received them.

Am I right in thinking that they have to contact me within 14 days of the date the alleged incident happened? Is it worth trying this route or would it be my word against theirs that I haven't received earlier correspondence? Or is the 14 day thing null and void now that they have written to me again and given me another 28 days to reply?

Many thanks

JP1978

You are correct, they have 14 clear days after the offence to contact the REGISTERED KEEPER of the vehicle.

So, questions are,

Are you the RK?
Have you changed address or other details recently? If so, what is the DOCREF date on the V5.

It is very unusual for the original NIP to be delivered so late.

Booga315

I am the registered keeper.

I have not changed my details recently, the last time was over 2 years ago when I changed to my current address.

This is not the original NIP, it is marked as a "copy" and the cover note on the other side of the paper says they have not received a satisfactory response. However this is the only correspondence I have received. I presume the original NIP has been lost in the post.

TadleyBaggie

Running a late delivery defence is not an easy thing to do, if you go to Pepipoo and check out Peter G's story you will see why. He had a witness (the postman) to the late delivery of the first NIP, and still lost in the mags court and the subsequent appeal. He only got it overturned with an appeal to the High Court.

Booga315

Sounds like it's not worth the effort then, my word against theirs. I guess I'll just have to hope they offer me a speed awareness course.

Linus2864

Booga315 wrote: »

I am the registered keeper.

I have not changed my details recently, the last time was over 2 years ago when I changed to my current address.

When you say "changed your details" did you send the V5C to DVLA so they could update their records? If not, then they would still have the car registered at your old address which may account for the late NIP. Assuming you had the same vehicle back then of course.


There are numerous cases on the Pepipoo forums where drivers have moved address but just updated their licences and forgot about sending in the V5C.


Regardless, it's still worth going over to the forums if you want advice on possible options and penalties:



http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?&

Hope this helps

L

Car_54

Not necessarily. For instance, they may have found him from the insurers' database.

Le_Kirk

I was going to post that he must have changed his details in order for the second letter to have arrived at the correct address but if checking with the insurance database is possible why did they not do it before sending the first letter? I don't know their systems but doubt there is manual intervention if a reply is not received, more likely an automatic response to send an "information not received" letter to the same address.

Billy_Bullocks

Le_Kirk wrote: »

I was going to post that he must have changed his details in order for the second letter to have arrived at the correct address but if checking with the insurance database is possible why did they not do it before sending the first letter? I don't know their systems but doubt there is manual intervention if a reply is not received, more likely an automatic response to send an "information not received" letter to the same address.

There's no automatic and it's all manual intervention.