UKPC charge in middle of the night

Peedee

Hi, i went to work one morning to my new job (of 3 months) to find that my company had received the first of a few notice to keepers concerning my van being parked on my own driveway at home! - upon closer inspection i saw a couple of small UKPC signs around the estate (they looked quite new) stating - No commercial vehicles between 07.00 pm & 07.00 am - first time i'd noticed these to be honest - so i checked with the housing association who were no help - firstly stating they had no contract with UKPC as it was under review - then as more and more of these notices came to my employer i contacted them again to be told they had renewed with UKPC! - some of the alleged charges were issued at 2 in the morning! - what can i do - i cant pay these, and i have to park my van at home to protect my employers tools? (incidentally the van isn't sign written just plain white) any advice would be most welcome

TW1234

Beggars belief.
Does your lease agreement mention anything about this restriction? If not, then your parking arrangements (if any) in the lease precedes the addition of this new term. The parking company cannot unilaterally enforce any new conditions.
To prevent your employer having to deal with the PCNs, you need to notify the parking company that you are the "keeper for the time being"
Read up on the Newby thread and get your head around similar threads relating to leasehold private residential sites.

Coupon-mad

Where (more or less) is this location? We've helped with loads of these residential car park PCNs recently.

And how long have you lived there WITHOUT this interference and what does your lease/AST say?

Did you have any windscreen PCNs? If none, what were the gaps between 'incident' and 'postal PCN to the employer'? Over a month?

Read this:

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/residential-parking.html

HTH - you will be appealing each charge, as long as this is not in Scotland.

Half_way

Beggars belief.
Does your lease agreement mention anything about this restriction? If not, then your parking arrangements (if any) in the lease precedes the addition of this new term.[/quopte]
This is very important, and until it is answered you wint get much in the way of useful help.
If the lease is claer, then you must5 tell the management company who took on the parking company that you are rejecting the permit scheme for your space/area and should they continue to allow their agents to h arras you/cause issues at work you will have no option to charge the management company for your wasted time and any costs as a result of the actions of their agents

The_Deep

The wording in the lease is most important. If your lease forbids the parking of commercial vehicles, t(which many do), then you have little come-back, the Management Company could take you to court for breach of the terms of your lease.

However, if you vehivle is allowed then the PPC have virtually no leverage, and you can challenge them to take you to court, where you should win. Some reading.

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/link-parking-and-overstone-court.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/residential-parking.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/ukpc-hit-for-352-for-discontinuing.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/link-parking-lose-in-wrexham-flat-owner_2.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/tenancy-agreement-not-overruled-by.html

pappa_golf

the Management Company could take you to court for breach of the terms of your lease.


yes , the MANAGEMENT Co , not a set of knuckle dragging $%^&$%£

and before they (the management Co) started court action , they would have to follow a procedure

beamerguy

The_Deep wrote: »

The wording in the lease is most important. If your lease forbids the parking of commercial vehicles, t(which many do), then you have little come-back, the Management Company could take you to court for breach of the terms of your lease.

However, if you vehivle is allowed then the PPC have virtually no leverage, and you can challenge them to take you to court, where you should win. Some reading.

Don't wish to disagree with you Deep but the OP has said there is no signage on the van so why would it be classed as commercial.

If it's the typical white van it is about the same size as a motor home ..... would that be banned ?

Coupon-mad

I agree, on what basis were they assuming it was commercial or did they dip their toes in the water with one PCN and then were thrilled to find it was company-owned and started going mad?

pappa_golf

are you infurring that they may have fitted ANPR cameras at the top of the OPs street and got details immediatly?

tiz bloody obvious even to the DVLA that this CANNOT be a site that ANPR can be used on ,

no ticket on car &*^& off

Half_way

And where exactly would "commercial vehicle" be defined, a Works van being used for personal transport? a Works (company) car? a Hire vehicle ( of any type) ?

I know a few people who use a van/pick up truck both for Work and personal/family transport .
The original poster needs to examine their lease and then get back on here with the results.
If the lease is clear, then the Original poster should also ask His/Her neighbours if they are/have been in a similar situation, I understand that a poster on pepipoo, Lynzer has posted a few good letters/replys for residential tickets where the lease has primacy stating that the PPc has breached the Data protection act and could be liable for a charge of up to £750 ( although £200 ish seems about the reasonable limit)

If all that is so, then the Management company should be first on the list as they are jointly responsible for the actions of their agents, this would soon change their idea that PPCs are a trouble free way to manage their car park spaces

beamerguy

pappa_golf wrote: »

are you infurring that they may have fitted ANPR cameras at the top of the OPs street and got details immediatly?

tiz bloody obvious even to the DVLA that this CANNOT be a site that ANPR can be used on ,

no ticket on car &*^& off

ANPR was never mentioned, it's the budding wannabee UKPC photographers, you know, the "fake" picture brigade.

BUT .... as this happens at 2am, maybe there is a resident stooge employed by UKPC AND IS PAID COMMISSION

The OP should stay up watching his van with his camera to see who the "David Bailey" is